Labour's lost

[briantrumpet]

Young people today, like Brian, just want everything instantly.

I haven't got as much time left as youngsters like you.

 

[Psamathe]

You're right, and I was too impatient.

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Hopefully no bail (given he'll spend his time on bail repeating his alledged offence(s).

Plus, give him bail and we'll have to endure hearing endlessly about how he's the victim, his freedom of speech, etc.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

I haven't got as much time left as youngsters like you.

We want the world and we want it now gets a different emphasis.

We'll all be long dead before Burnham shows himself to be the new messiah.
But we might be able to have a drink while watching the football. (Ok, he's been on the world stage as well - capitulating to the incontinent one).

 

[briantrumpet]

We want the world and we want it now gets a different emphasis.

We'll all be long dead before Burnham shows himself to be the new messiah.
But we might be able to have a drink while watching the football. (Ok, he's been on the world stage as well - capitulating to the incontinent one).

Joking aside, I can be very patient, but the political slide into lunacy, effectively from 2016 in the UK, has now taken up quite a chunk of my time on this planet, and I'd quite like to see someone with a huge majority who's not a loon actually make a difference rather than fritter away time avoiding the central issues.

Burnham has somewhat made a rod for his own back by having come out all guns blazing since Makerfield was announced and after his victory there, but then more recently suddenly becoming mute and invisible when anything vaguely contentious comes up.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Joking aside, I can be very patient, but the political slide into lunacy, effectively from 2016 in the UK, has now taken up quite a chunk of my time on this planet, and I'd quite like to see someone with a huge majority who's not a loon actually make a difference rather than fritter away time avoiding the central issues.

Burnham has somewhat made a rod for his own back by having come out all guns blazing since Makerfield was announced and after his victory there, but then more recently suddenly becoming mute and invisible when anything vaguely contentious comes up.

I’m enjoying the break from Inyerface, kneejerk, soundbite politics.

As a wise woman once said “politics is fast, government is slow”.

 

[First Aspect]

It actually often bothers me when top level government ministers comment on individual cases. For one thing it risks circumventing a machinery beneath them, and it also risks politically being on the wrong side of the eventual outcome. It also makes individual twäts more important than they actually are.

 

[swee'pea99]

I’m enjoying the break from Inyerface, kneejerk, soundbite politics.

As a wise woman once said “politics is fast, government is slow”.

Politics is dreams, government is reality

I suspect Burnham's recent low profile also reflects him rather reeling from his brutal introduction to the difference between being mayor of Manchester and the PM. The notion that we can escape being in hock by borrowing more was always baffling. Now, with demands for big increases in defence spending and rising interest rates on sovereign debt, he finds himself where his predecessor did: stuck between a rock and a hard place. Just two days back the graun reported "a deficit so far this financial year of £77.3bn - £8.1bn over forecast".

You might equally say

Politics is winning, government is surviving.

 

[swee'pea99]

PS Just noticed

spiteful class warrior​

That is quality.

 

[Beebo]

Politics is dreams, government is reality

I suspect Burnham's recent low profile also reflects him rather reeling from his brutal introduction to the difference between being mayor of Manchester and the PM. The notion that we can escape being in hock by borrowing more was always baffling. Now, with demands for big increases in defence spending and rising interest rates on sovereign debt, he finds himself where his predecessor did: stuck between a rock and a hard place. Just two days back the graun reported "a deficit so far this financial year of £77.3bn - £8.1bn over forecast".

You might equally say

Politics is winning, government is surviving.

Meanwhile Starmer is probably secretly pleased to be out of the hot seat.

Burnham was prepared to blow up the entire Labour Party to gain power but has brought very little.