Musk isn't the Anti-Christ (probably)

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briantrumpet

Timewaster
not sure where you got that random chart from.
Tesla sold 235,322 cars in Europe in 2025.

That seems like a great figure but in 2023 they were selling 349,696 cars in Europe. In 2024 they were down 25,000 sales. In 2025 they were down by 115,000 sales.

Their sales figures went down close to 50% in Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Sweden (big time). The only EU country that saw more sales was Norway for some reason.

BYD stole their crown. Their brand is now tainted and China is sweeping in to do things better and cheaper.

This is like arguing with a dead relative whose last words were "The earth's flat, you know!!" just before they croaked.
 

briantrumpet

Timewaster
Nurse, Mr Musk's been inhaling again!

In a side note, what's the obsession with making robots in humanoid form? Is it just an idiotic idea retained from sci-fi films of the 50s and 60s?

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Pross

Guru
Space X revenue increased to $8 billion in the last quarter but still making a losses, especially the AI part which accounts for much of the spending increasing 6 fold over a year. However, Musk has now said revenue will now hit $1 trillion in 2030, a year earlier than previously. He’s definitely on something and the all important ‘the markets’ seem to have also come to that conclusion with shares crashing.
 

icowden

Pharaoh
Space X revenue increased to $8 billion in the last quarter but still making a losses, especially the AI part which accounts for much of the spending increasing 6 fold over a year. However, Musk has now said revenue will now hit $1 trillion in 2030, a year earlier than previously. He’s definitely on something and the all important ‘the markets’ seem to have also come to that conclusion with shares crashing.

On the one hand SpaceX is almost entirely Government funded. On the other hand, that funding is dependent on Trump and a docile Senate and House. With the mid-terms looming, maybe confidence is dropping...
 

Psamathe

Legendary Member
On the one hand SpaceX is almost entirely Government funded. On the other hand, that funding is dependent on Trump and a docile Senate and House. With the mid-terms looming, maybe confidence is dropping...
And one aspect to Trümp's support is he love of pollution, denial of climate change, etc. and a lot of Musk's activities are pretty detrimental to sustainability, etc. Change in US governance that considers the longer term impacts of pollution and Musk might become more constrained.
 
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