Badenoch's (Lack Of) Vision Quest

[First Aspect]

Spectroscopy is the measurement of the energy or power distribution in a frequency range, that's most definitely physics, that you guys can assign certain features of that distribution to changes in configuration of a group of atoms (or subatomic particles) is taxonomy of the spectra.

This is technobabble. Spectroscopy is the study of quantum transitions.

The point you are missing is the true Venn diagram of "chemistry" and "physics" overlaps. Chemists need to get a lot more into the fundamentals that you think in order to do meaningful chemistry.

If your idea of chemistry is more polystyrene balls and plastic straws, then sure, you are right. Organic chemists by and large get away with albeit fiendishly complex application of 19th century approximations, with more exceptions than there are rules. We thank them for their efforts.

You might even argue that chemistry came first by the way, when philosophers were striving to identify the essential elements. They got it totally wrong, but they were only philosophers. The early chemists needed to study the physical nature of matter a bit more to make sense of it, and some people just go down that rabbit hole entirely.

 

[First Aspect]

I think I'll avoid this debate with the quantum physics professor whose son I teach.

Google says chemistry was first, by a few thousand years. So chemists focussed on a branch of science now called physics and are to be thanked for everything.

 

[Pblakeney]

I think I'll avoid this debate with the quantum physics professor whose son I teach.

Just noticed the “Pharaoh” in your avatar.
That’s got to brighten up your day.

 

[briantrumpet]

Just noticed the “Pharaoh” in your avatar.
That’s got to brighten up your day.

All it does is put a label on the amount of time I waste here.

 

[briantrumpet]

Google says chemistry was first, by a few thousand years. So chemists focussed on a branch of science now called physics and are to be thanked for everything.

Probably more suited to primitive intelligence.

 

[C R]

This is technobabble. Spectroscopy is the study of quantum transitions

And quantum transitions are physical phenomena, thank you.

 

[icowden]

Google says chemistry was first, by a few thousand years. So chemists focussed on a branch of science now called physics and are to be thanked for everything.

Dunno if it helps, but my dad's doctorate thesis was something to do with polymer chemistry.

 

[Rusty Nails]

And quantum transitions are physical phenomena, thank you.

Yebbut it's not rocket science.

 

[C R]

Yebbut it's not rocket science.

That is mostly chemistry, to be fair.

 

[secretsqirrel]

I was listening.
She just can’t read the room. Made to look foolish and isolated at a time requiring unity.

She keeps falling into the trap of blaming Labour for military/everything being run down.

And yes she should have read the room rather than the Telecrap.

 

[First Aspect]

And quantum transitions are physical phenomena, thank you.

I think if you claim that the phy in physics gives you claim to anything "physical" you are going to get yourself confused, because quite a lot of contenced matter is only condensed because of physical interactions. But these are caused by those pesky electron clouds of those boring simple hiher elements not starting with "H", but which have been ceded to us chemists to be preoccupied with.

 

[C R]

I think if you claim that the phy in physics gives you claim to anything "physical" you are going to get yourself confused, because quite a lot of contenced matter is only condensed because of physical interactions. But these are caused by those pesky electron clouds of those boring simple hiher elements not starting with "H", but which have been ceded to us chemists to be preoccupied with.

What?

 

[Rusty Nails]

She keeps falling into the trap of blaming Labour for military/everything being run down.

And yes she should have read the room rather than the Telecrap.

Any fool knows that the current problems with armed forces numbers, inoperable warships and old equipment have all started since late 2024, and before that were all at peak fighting level.

 

[First Aspect]

What?

Exactly.

 

[Ian H]

The only thing I've read recently which even slightly concerns chemistry is a quote from a newspaper columnist referring to "salt, you know, the stuff you put in water to make sea".