Bristolians

[AuroraSaab]

Where in Bristol isn't in 15 minutes bus, bike or walk of a school?

It might not be the school your kids got in to/were allocated to though. Or you might have moved to a different house or job further away. Lots of people drop their kids off at school on the way to work. In an ideal world we'd all walk or bike, or bus it, to school and work but that's not feasible for everybody these days.

 

[mjr]

It might not be the school your kids got in to/were allocated to though. Or you might have moved to a different house or job further away. Lots of people drop their kids off at school on the way to work. In an ideal world we'd all walk or bike, or bus it, to school and work but that's not feasible for everybody these days.

Not everybody, no. Nobody said that. That doesn't mean it's not feasible for many more than do it, though.

We also need to fix school allocations so they don't assume and require people to pay all that money for cars, as that will increase child poverty. I find it surprising if Bristol hasn't already, with its relatively low car ownership in many areas.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Letting parents put down choices for schools has had an effect on travelling. No more just going to the nearest school. I wonder if wfh has made a difference too. Kids who would have walked or got the bus now have parents at home who might be willing to taxi them around a bit more as they aren't facing a commute themselves.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Not everybody, no. Nobody said that. That doesn't mean it's not feasible for many more than do it, though.

We also need to fix school allocations so they don't assume and require people to pay all that money for cars, as that will increase child poverty. I find it surprising if Bristol hasn't already, with its relatively low car ownership in many areas.

We need to fix the school allocation system by ensuring that whichever school your kids go to they will get an equal quality of education.

Minimising car transport is nowhere near the main consideration for the education system.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Yep. Parents understandably want their kids in the best possible school, whether it's for academic or learning support reasons, and they'll drive them to/from it if they have to. There'll never be complete equality in terms of academic results between state schools but it would be nice if your second or third choice was still guaranteed to be a pretty good school.

 

[Beebo]

We need to fix the school allocation system by ensuring that whichever school your kids go to they will get an equal quality of education.

Minimising car transport is nowhere near the main consideration for the education system.

I live close to some very popular grammar schools in Kent.
Some parents drive their children from Essex into Kent every day. Anyone who knows the Dartford crossing will understand how crazy that is.
The parents spend around 4 hours a day going there and back again twice. It’s madness.

 

[AuroraSaab]

How bad are Essex schools that you'd be prepared to do that? House prices probably come in to it a bit too.

 

[mjr]

Minimising car transport is nowhere near the main consideration for the education system.

Not the main, but it should be up there. It's not good for the kids spending ages in cars every day ane it's worse for the other kids at that school getting gassed and dusted by more cars twice a day.

Yes, all schools should be good. Until we can achieve that, at least let's stop polluting the good ones so mich.

 

[Electric_Andy]

Where in Bristol isn't in 15 minutes bus, bike or walk of a school?

I don't know, I don't live in Bristol or know the area. But as someone else said, schools aren't always local now. My son walks to school when he's with his mum, but can't do that when he's staying with me. To get a bus from here would mean leaving at 07:14, then a 1 hour journey and then waiting at school for 30 mins because no other bus journeys would get him there on time. I don't think this scenario is unique to me. Anyway, I have a driveway. But my point is, if you don't have a driveway then would you want your young kids to do this sort of jounrey every day, or would you think "stuff it, I'll own a car and park on the road"? Maybe we shouldn't be so judgmental of every day people trying to get by in life, who are paying their taxes and trying to do the right thing by getting their kids into school. And who can't afford a house near a main bus route and/or with a driveway?

 

[Beebo]

A bit of fun from the USA.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/IRnsBsYgvx4?si=OEWwVGSkYZLzij5y

 

[fozy tornip]

I don't know, I don't live in Bristol or know the area. But as someone else said, schools aren't always local now. My son walks to school when he's with his mum, but can't do that when he's staying with me. To get a bus from here would mean leaving at 07:14, then a 1 hour journey and then waiting at school for 30 mins because no other bus journeys would get him there on time. I don't think this scenario is unique to me. Anyway, I have a driveway. But my point is, if you don't have a driveway then would you want your young kids to do this sort of jounrey every day, or would you think "stuff it, I'll own a car and park on the road"? Maybe we shouldn't be so judgmental of every day people trying to get by in life, who are paying their taxes and trying to do the right thing by getting their kids into school. And who can't afford a house near a main bus route and/or with a driveway?

Spawning is obligatory now?

 

[Rusty Nails]

Spawning is obligatory now?

Judging by your user title, no.

 

[theclaud]

Judging by your user title, no.

I think the point is that if subsidised driving is seen as some kind of fundamental human right, people will tend to plan their families around subsidised driving.

 

[Rusty Nails]

I think the point is that if subsidised driving is seen as some kind of fundamental human right, people will tend to plan their families around subsidised driving.

Thank you for claudsplaining that.

I feel bad now for taking the piss out of Fozy's user title.