Burnham

[Milzy]

I bet you wish you could do that. Pee backwards.

I knew a guy who had a pee hole around the side of his meat. Had surgery to put a new hole in the front of his helmet. He probably didn’t pee backwards but could certainly pee sideways. Called it a crab p1$$.

 

[Ian H]

Unpleasant circumlocution there.

 

[briantrumpet]

Unpleasant circumlocution there.

He's got no skin in the game.

 

[Ian H]

He's got no skin in the game.

Well scribed!

 

[briantrumpet]

Well scribed!

I thought you might make a cutting remark, so had put my metaphorical helmet on.

 

[Milzy]

Badenoch is smashing it. But I can’t say I’d trust her much more.

 

[Ian H]

I thought you might make a cutting remark, so had put my metaphorical helmet on.

I wondered what the unsightly bulge was.

 

[briantrumpet]

I wondered what the unsightly bulge was.

Probably because I eat too much red meatus.

 

[monkers]

My flute teacher was also his flute teacher.

 

[briantrumpet]

It would actually be quite funny if this happened. Starmer was never going to follow these polls (he'd had his 'red lines' tattooed on his arse), and Badenoch has missed her chance of breaking with the lies of Johnson (I think she could have just about pulled it off, had she not been so far down X rabbit holes). But purely as an electoral gambit (quite distinct from the process of actually re-joining or formalising closer ties), if this kind of polling stays vaguely constant, Burnham might see the advantage, rather than run away from it.

 

[C R]

It would actually be quite funny if this happened. Starmer was never going to follow these polls (he'd had his 'red lines' tattooed on his arse), and Badenoch has missed her chance of breaking with the lies of Johnson (I think she could have just about pulled it off, had she not been so far down X rabbit holes). But purely as an electoral gambit (quite distinct from the process of actually re-joining or formalising closer ties), if this kind of polling stays vaguely constant, Burnham might see the advantage, rather than run away from it.

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Another optimist. The overall aggregation polls, like the one in the graun last week show just about 50% support for rejoin with a significant number of undecided. That's not much of a change from the referendum result.

 

[Psamathe]

It would actually be quite funny if this happened. Starmer was never going to follow these polls (he'd had his 'red lines' tattooed on his arse), and Badenoch has missed her chance of breaking with the lies of Johnson (I think she could have just about pulled it off, had she not been so far down X rabbit holes). But purely as an electoral gambit (quite distinct from the process of actually re-joining or formalising closer ties), if this kind of polling stays vaguely constant, Burnham might see the advantage, rather than run away from it.

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It would have been helpful if "electorate" were included. The numbers become very relevant eg were A count Binface column included we'd get %ages of his supporters but that column would have had a minor impact were a referendum taken.

Also are they polling Party members of Party supporters or based on previous General Election votes as I have the impression how people would vote had recently become fairly dynamic.

It does give information about sentiment within each Party but not as to what might happen across the electorate.

 

[briantrumpet]

It would have been helpful if "electorate" were included. The numbers become very relevant eg were A count Binface column included we'd get %ages of his supporters but that column would have had a minor impact were a referendum taken.

Also are they polling Party members of Party supporters or based on previous General Election votes as I have the impression how people would vote had recently become fairly dynamic.

It does give information about sentiment within each Party but not as to what might happen across the electorate.

At the moment, Yougov seems to be completely offline, so I can't check the methodology.

@C R - I'll admit it's hard to reconcile that Graun article (which seems to be the outlier) and other polls on the subject. And quite apart from that, a lot can happen in two years anyway. I'd absolutely agree that it would be nuts to think about a referendum without a pretty unassailable lead. But that's different from going into an election saying you're the party to vote for if you want to improve and formalise EU relations, with a choice of outcomes possible which are short of (re)joining.

 

[C R]

At the moment, Yougov seems to be completely offline, so I can't check the methodology.

@C R - I'll admit it's hard to reconcile that Graun article (which seems to be the outlier) and other polls on the subject. And quite apart from that, a lot can happen in two years anyway. I'd absolutely agree that it would be nuts to think about a referendum without a pretty unassailable lead. But that's different from going into an election saying you're the party to vote for if you want to improve and formalise EU relations, with a choice of outcomes possible which are short of (re)joining.

I think the reason the graun poll looks like an outlier is because they aggregated the data in the way @Psamathe suggested, which is the only way of presenting the data that makes sense. I wish it were different, but things are not improving.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Unless it states the terms of rejoining, opinion polls on it are a bit useless imo.