Burnham

[Pross]

Ahh, so Newnewnewport as their rugby fans used to chant.

Yeah but they're a bunch of daffodils.

 

[Pblakeney]

1. If we do permit new drilling the message to the rest of the world from rich country is "do as we say not as we do". Difficult to expect other countries to address hydrocarbon emissions when we just grant new drilling licenses.

It's only hypocritical if we do say that though, and I'm not sure that we do.

 

[BoldonLad]

Apparently not. There is no law covering killing of emergency workers and politicians cannot direct the law to be applied differently on an individual basis (eg responding to petitions). Similarly, they cannot retrospectivley change the law (creating a law applying to emergency service workers).

So any exemptions have to apply to all convicted of the same offence.

But they might (apparently) try eg exclude those with sentences longer than some threshold but then it's been said that they wouldn't be releasing enough to create the prison space they need.

I'm not a lawyer and thus just repeating reports I've seen/heard from those more knowledgeable.

It would appear that Andy/No10 are selling a different message https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/crlw5wnykr2t

 

[Rusty Nails]

Oi!

They have lots of coffe shops and Greggs too.

(The relatively recently refurbished market is supposedly genuinely quite good with lots of independent food places but have never been in there myself as I usually aim to get through the town and out as soon as possible).

Cue Newport jokes:

What's the best thing to come out of Newport?....The A48. (This joke pre-dates the M4)

The Germans bombed Newport in WW2....and caused £3 million of improvements.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Fortunately I don't actually live there (or maybe I do technically but would never admit to it)

I loves this I do:


View: https://youtu.be/ZJwzRV3AU9Q?si=gH1edgNUDtXCB5TU


Plus a bonus bit from Bonnie Tyler.

 

[Pross]

I loves this I do:


View: https://youtu.be/ZJwzRV3AU9Q?si=gH1edgNUDtXCB5TU


Plus a bonus bit from Bonnie Tyler.

GLC did a bit of a response to that too. Don’t think they were impressed at outsiders slagging off their home town obviously it’s fine to do it when you live there (or technically there but not really there)

 

[AndyRM]

GLC did a bit of a response to that too. Don’t think they were impressed at outsiders slagging off their home town obviously it’s fine to do it when you live there (or technically there but not really there)

A bit? It was a thorough clamping.


View: https://youtu.be/Dx8CZyFM4b4?is=U5K2JbwXK-2Jyunh

 

[Psamathe]

One aspect that's beginning to concern me about Burnham is we seem to be getting never ending "Burnham is considering ...", "Burnham is looking at ways to ...", "Burnham is going to <massive broad generalisation> details some months away".

Lots of noise but nothing actually being announced. A bit like his new communications dept is on steroids feeling they need to just announce nothing to keep the noise going.

But it looks a bit designed to be misinterpreted eg today Burnham to consider ban on disposable barbecues as wildfires rage in UK - interpreted as he is sorting/reducing these wildfire causes but he actually isn't doing anything, just considering, just thinking about and he may easily decide not to do anything (eg as it would need laws and Parliament is busy). We interpret it as he's on the case, acting but he actually isn't acting.

 

[Rusty Nails]

GLC did a bit of a response to that too. Don’t think they were impressed at outsiders slagging off their home town obviously it’s fine to do it when you live there (or technically there but not really there)

I used to go to the clubs in Newport in the 70s and 80s. Never dared to mention to locals that I was from Cardiff. I always said I was from my original hometown of Merthyr...much safer.

 

[BoldonLad]

One aspect that's beginning to concern me about Burnham is we seem to be getting never ending "Burnham is considering ...", "Burnham is looking at ways to ...", "Burnham is going to <massive broad generalisation> details some months away".

Lots of noise but nothing actually being announced. A bit like his new communications dept is on steroids feeling they need to just announce nothing to keep the noise going.

But it looks a bit designed to be misinterpreted eg today Burnham to consider ban on disposable barbecues as wildfires rage in UK - interpreted as he is sorting/reducing these wildfire causes but he actually isn't doing anything, just considering, just thinking about and he may easily decide not to do anything (eg as it would need laws and Parliament is busy). We interpret it as he's on the case, acting but he actually isn't acting.

If you don’t actually do anything, you can’t do anything wrong 😊

 

[Dorset Boy]

To fair to Burnham, he is somewhat hamstrung whilst Parliament in on its summer holidays

 

[briantrumpet]

To fair to Burnham, he is somewhat hamstrung whilst Parliament in on its summer holidays

Whoa, steady boy!! 🙃

 

[Bromptonaut]

Re: Early Prisoner Release
Whilst I don't fully appreciate the criminal justice system but with early prisoner release to resolve over-crowding, why are we not using the unused military bases currently intended for housing refugees? Instead of housing refugees, move prisoners to them as a "Open Prison" making it clear that should they abscond not only will they be returned to prison but they will impact any future parole decisions.

Prisoners could be moved to sites far from their victims, etc.

I appreciate the security would be weak but it's higher than just complete release and back to the same area as their victims.

I'm sure it has been considered but I've not seen it raised nor reasons why it can't work.

Would get mired in planning and legal challenges. With best will in the world it'd take a year plus to deliver

We need prison places free by October. If that doesn't happen there will be nowhere to send arrestees and Judges can't sentence for jail time.

 

[Pblakeney]

Would get mired in planning and legal challenges. With best will in the world it'd take a year plus to deliver

We need prison places free by October. If that doesn't happen there will be nowhere to send arrestees and Judges can't sentence for jail time.

Another point raised recently. We (as a country) do not currently have enough manpower to oversee all those under supervision as it is.
Add on more people needing supervision and...

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

The welfare costs are not just around unemployment though, it is all social security spending as a whole. Some of the biggest spending increases are on pensioners due to the ageing population. Incapacity benefits across families have also risen significantly. How much could be done via the NHS and improved healthcare is difficult to know, but I am guessing most claimants involve a level of disability that prevents them from working so possibly not much.

As for general unemployment and allowances, I guess these are more structural issues around job creation and wage stagnation. If we want to get more people into work, and importantly, those in work earning enough to live, we need some fairly sizeable improvements to the economy and policies that encourage and enable businesses to grow sustainably and employ more people.

I agree that mental health has definitely become more of an issue and I do feel that this is not at the clinical level, but more a case of resilience. However, if economic conditions improved people's prosperity I think that mental health would improve dramatically due to less pressure and worry for personal circumstances, particularly financially.

Yes sure but the point is also it's time to call BS when it's so clear presented that it almost look like a clean white plate with a big brown artwork on it. Years ago the claim was tabled that the uk had the highest wellfare benefit payments from all of europe. in pure numbers that was absolutely true but if you dive in a bit deeper it's starts to break down. to give a few examples, the Netherlands does not have housing benefit but it does have "huursubsidie" which is in fact the same but not calculated into the wellfare benefits as it is technically a tax benefit. similar as in many european countries sick pay is also not calculated as a benefit either because its payed out by an collective insurance or otherwise goes from a different source.

and if you take it all down last time i checked Germany had the nett highest benefits payments.

it's almost as crazy as all those basically payment plans for your funeral while in most of Europe we have insurance for that purpose(same or lower payments but those left behind also have less to worry about if the person with the cover is taken away unexpectedly)
But the craziest of all thinks is how they seemingly get away with it, i remember back in the day when it was still Farage vs Cameron at least they had like fierce debates etc. it now seems to be all tame and must be short cheap and ready to put on short video format or something. That's an style that suits Farage for obvious reasons.

But if you look at the reasons for the higher wellfare bills its all dwarfed by the cost for the NHS and if you then go back a little bit futher you see that at some point a certain PM decided the car needed to have priority over everything. In Germany The Netherlands and other parts of Europe they didn't evidence shows which approach was right.