Digital ID: yes or no?

[Pblakeney]

Gah, you just want to steal FA's identity and live his jet-set lifestyle, canoeing on the Tamar and all.

Not subtle enough then? 😂

 

[briantrumpet]

Not subtle enough then? 😂

All this stuff about you being retired without massive amounts of wealth... I think we can work out how you're funding your lavish lifestyle now.

 

[briantrumpet]

You'll have to excuse me if I find this ever so slightly amusing in the context of this discussion.

 

[Psamathe]

You'll have to excuse me if I find this ever so slightly amusing in the context of this discussion.

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One account I have (can't remember which one) I occasionally call them and they "take me through security" and "Birthday", "postcode" and then "First school you attended" to which I think for a short time and can't remember so answer "I have absolutely no idea" and weird thimg is they "that's correct". Seems years ago when I setup the account the question was on the list and I gave that answer at setup time and they wrote it down.

 

[First Aspect]

Is it safe to read that QR code or will it send me to the dark web?

 

[briantrumpet]

Is it safe to read that QR code or will it send me to the dark web?

There was a discussion of this somewhere else here, but as there isn't a QR code to take me to the discussion, I've no idea what the outcome was.

 

[Pross]

I've never seen the reason why people are so against having an easy way to prove who they are.

 

[Pross]

There was a discussion of this somewhere else here, but as there isn't a QR code to take me to the discussion, I've no idea what the outcome was.

I tried it, I can't recall where it sent me but it was safe and legal I believe (although maybe that's relative to my normal browsing).

 

[Pblakeney]

I've never seen the reason why people are so against having an easy way to prove who they are.

A vain attempt to maintain a level of privacy. Or the illusion of such.

 

[First Aspect]

I've never seen the reason why people are so against having an easy way to prove who they are.

It is a slippery slope between that and having to prove who you are on demand.

Regarding the digital aspect, this has not been a good period to sell that to the public. JLR, Coop, M&S, now a nursery chain, Afghan informants etc. have all suffered from data breaches. If you codify ones identity in one digital platform, the consequences of a cock up could be extremely significant.

Let me put it another way. How valuable would the data be?

 

[briantrumpet]

Regarding the digital aspect, this has not been a good period to sell that to the public. JLR, Coop, M&S, now a nursery chain, Afghan informants etc. have all suffered from data breaches. If you codify ones identity in one digital platform, the consequences of a cock up could be extremely significant.

Let me put it another way. How valuable would the data be?

It's question I often ask myself, given how much sensitive data most of us have saved in, say Google or Apple systems... passwords ("Save them all in one place, so you can have really secure random ones you can't memorise!!"), bank card details, etc. etc. I make token efforts such as not saving the security codes on bank cards, but places like Google and Apple must be prime targets (and, one hopes, Google and Apple know that and have extraordinary measures in places, to prevent data theft).

 

[briantrumpet]

A vain attempt to maintain a level of privacy. Or the illusion of such.

It's an illusion. Older people tend to be more wary, I think (I still have 'location' off most of the time, as I know where I am, most of the time), but I think younger generations just leave everything on, on the whole, as they've bought into the convenience and ubiquity, and have grown up with the systems.

 

[Pblakeney]

It's an illusion. Older people tend to be more wary, I think (I still have 'location' off most of the time, as I know where I am, most of the time), but I think younger generations just leave everything on, on the whole, as they've bought into the convenience and ubiquity, and have grown up with the systems.

My thinking is that you either go off grid completely or succumb.
Any middle ground is an illusion.

 

[All uphill]

Many aspects but one thing you might consider is cost. Labour are keeping the 2-child benefir cap and ever increasing child poverty because we don't have the money to pay for it to be repealed. To remove the 2-child benefit cap would cost between £1.3bn to £3.8bn (different estimates from different sources). Last time Labour started their ID card system it cost us £4bn and never got to the point of cards being issues (ie would have cost more0.

so how come we can afford an ID card system that will solve nothing and can't afford to address child poverty. Have Labour got their priorities right?

nb ID cards have not addressed illegal working in France where they have a reported 300,000 "sans-papiers" yet illegal working seems Starmer's justification for everybody having a "Brit Card".

Yes, it did occur to me that Starmer should have said " May not work" rather than "Cannot work".

 

[Cirrus]

Hopefully we will get to: