Discrimination?

[First Aspect]

You’re right, I’m not getting your point at all!

I’ve given an example of hostility against Gaelic which you appear to be saying was not the actual target.
The offending member wasn’t a newbie, didn’t have prior trolling behaviour etc., didn’t criticise any other language but jumped straight in with an unprompted dig at Gaelic during a discussion about Latin, which he then developed further until he was ejected.

I might add that others, with no interest in Gaelic itself, but native speakers of Arabic, Igbo, Spanish and so on, felt strongly enough to take up its defence.

I think Brian is explaining that some people get a buzz out of out grouping, and that to a large extent the out group itself isn't as important as the pleasure in discriminating against it.

If you substituted "Gaelic speakers" with "cyclists" it might help.

It's part of human nature.

 

[briantrumpet]

I think Brian is explaining that some people get a buzz out of out grouping, and that to a large extent the out group itself isn't as important as the pleasure in discriminating against it.

If you substituted "Gaelic speakers" with "cyclists" it might help.

It's part of human nature.

Perhaps an analogy might be someone getting shot by random machine-fire: to a person who gets shot it's is naturally going to be personal, but for the person with the gun they are just shooting whoever happens to get in the way.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

I have no map for the current situation. It also explains why certain place names are of Norse background.

Also I know not when 'Scots' became a thing:

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

A more modern map:

 

[briantrumpet]

FWIW, the national school system in France was set up (at the end of the 19th century) expressly to impose standardised French on the nation and to eliminate regional languages (Occitan, Breton, etc). The 'success' was so profound that by the second generation of children who'd been schooled under the new system, the grandparents often couldn't communicate with the grandchildren, leaving the middle generation as interpreters. The 'southern accent' (Marseille etc, with it's much more nasal and percussive sounds) was still very much mocked in academia in the 1980s still.

 

[First Aspect]

If you compare the last two maps, over time it shows evidence of anti-Norse sentiment amongst the Gaelic.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

If you compare the last two maps, over time it shows evidence of anti-Norse sentiment amongst the Gaelic.

Nice try.

They co - existed for a time, but yes, there probably was at the time.

They did leave their mark though and even now, there are place names in the Hebrides like 'Horgabost' and 'Seilebost'.

 

[matticus]

Perhaps an analogy might be someone getting shot by random machine-fire: to a person who gets shot it's is naturally going to be personal, but for the person with the gun they are just shooting whoever happens to get in the way.

I get it - there's no such thing as racism. It's just that twats are more likely to pick on non-whites.

 

[briantrumpet]

I get it - there's no such thing as racism. It's just that twats are more likely to pick on non-whites.

Still not what I'm saying, but hey ho.