Does anybody here take the Greens seriously?

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briantrumpet

Timewaster
Starting to wonder if the Greens are slipping towards Corbyn territory. This doesn't feel like Green policies are at the top of her agenda.

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Dorset Boy

Senior Member
Can't quite tell, but is she wearing tin foil in that photo?
 

Pross

Guru
Starting to wonder if the Greens are slipping towards Corbyn territory. This doesn't feel like Green policies are at the top of her agenda.

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Hasn’t that always been the big problem with them? They briefly started to show signs of becoming a reasonably sensible left of centre Party with a Green agenda but for most of my memory they have been loons with ridiculous economic policy.
 

briantrumpet

Timewaster
Hasn’t that always been the big problem with them? They briefly started to show signs of becoming a reasonably sensible left of centre Party with a Green agenda but for most of my memory they have been loons with ridiculous economic policy.

Seeing one or two posts suggesting that there are established weird factions within the Greens... no idea if it is true, but there was an anti Caroline Lucas faction (of which this person might or might not be a member) determined to get rid of her and her brand of Greenism, which, to be fair, id and still does seem to focus on Green issues.

If the Greens just morph into a populist anti-capitalist and anti-Israel party with no real green agenda or focus, it would be a great shame, particularly when that is such a pressing topic as the world burns.
 

Psamathe

Legendary Member
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy49k5x0w1o

38% windfall tax on banks isn't serious policy. If the argument is that they are ripping people off now, this would encourage 62% more ripping off.

It is a policy for the numpty left, which seems to make up most of their party.
Hearing this report on the radio, I first heard "Windfall Tax" and from the Green Party and I just assumed it was being proposed on the Oil companies (being Green Party and all).

Then when it got to "on the banks" that to me summed-up where their focus is under Polanski, migrated well away from any green environmental focus.
 

briantrumpet

Timewaster
Hearing this report on the radio, I first heard "Windfall Tax" and from the Green Party and I just assumed it was being proposed on the Oil companies (being Green Party and all).

Then when it got to "on the banks" that to me summed-up where their focus is under Polanski, migrated well away from any green environmental focus.

His first instinct is populism, not in green principles, not least as, like Badenoch, he's captured by algorithms on X, I suspect, and making pronouncements that get the most reactions there.
 
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Ian H

Shaman
If they want to be elected they have to show a complete set of policies, and socialism is, in general, a better fit than capitalism.
 

Psamathe

Legendary Member
If they want to be elected they have to show a complete set of policies, and socialism is, in general, a better fit than capitalism.
I don't think "getting elected" should be the priority for anybody. Just a sign of ego. The aim should be to change our governance to be closer to one's ideology. Green Party can pursue Green Policies and achieve change without "being elected". Operating in the political arean (putting up candidates for election, etc.) positions them as part of the policy system rather than as lobbyists/pressure groups.

They managed to get surprising electoral success before they were hijacked (that took away from their Green Agenda).
 

monkers

Shaman
Hasn’t that always been the big problem with them? They briefly started to show signs of becoming a reasonably sensible left of centre Party with a Green agenda but for most of my memory they have been loons with ridiculous economic policy.

The ''ridiculous economic policy'' is the global one that encourages politicians like Tice to say the things they do during a crisis. Green Party policy does not change following an election. All party policy is determined by the membership not the leadership. This explains why the GPEW occupy a near constant policy position. If you doubt that, you might consider looking at Political Compass, it shows how party position change chronologically under different leaders, but the GPEW is near constant.

https://www.politicalcompass.org
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
Looks like this man took a woman's designated place. I think sensible Green Party members can take some comfort from it being quite a close result but this is the kind of candidate who will attract like minded individuals to the Greens but alienate many of the wider electorate. His victory announcement ended with 'Inshallah... We shall prevail' so obviously appealing to a certain demographic as opposed to the environmental cohort that made up the Green's traditional voters. Will be interesting to see if the Greens tear themselves apart trying to expel those who voice objection to the direction of travel.

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