First Aspect
Legendary Member
Yeah but his mum should've told him that two wrongs don't make a right. You can't claim the moral high ground from the swamp.
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Yeah but his mum should've told him that two wrongs don't make a right. You can't claim the moral high ground from the swamp.
Psamathe
Legendary Member
I saw his Newsnight appearance last night (and the refusal to appologise). To me he came across as having spent a fair time working out his excuses, came across as very rehearsed, to a degree clutching at tenuous excuses to try and get away with hwat he did, a lot of whataboutery, frequently trying to move away from the asked questions.
Not impressed ... whish really disappoints me as until Polanski I voted for Green Party candidates, supported much of its agenda under Ms Lucas, was even a member of the Green Party (quite a few years ago). Yet last election (local Council) I wouldn't even vote for the Green candidate.
Psamathe
Legendary Member
It would be interesting to know if Farangë is getting any public sympathy (which he seems to be trying for). But then not really significant enough an issue for polls to waste resources on.
Dunno really, but even if does get support it's a bad look. You either agree with the principle.of free speech or you don't and calling for the arrest of someone for posting nasty things about you online is a dick move.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
I reckon that's a fair-ish take. But there was a point when he realised his whatabouterty wasn't working and he fronted up.
Pblakeney
Squire
I think that to not apologise for a mistake is a mis-step.
Neither of them come out smelling of roses.
Psamathe
Legendary Member
Daft aspect about this Farâge/Polanski squabble is, with all the massive challenges facing the country, far to many not getting adequate healthcare, far too many not able to find employment, so much of our taxes going on debt interest, etc., etc. all a couple of our politicians can do is to squabble about a t-shirt.
What about the person who was wearing the t-shirt? is Fárange calling for that person to be arrested? What about the company making the t-shirt and why no Police dawn raid? ...
What about the person who was wearing the t-shirt? is Fárange calling for that person to be arrested? What about the company making the t-shirt and why no Police dawn raid? ...
First Aspect
Legendary Member
Let's turn "sorry mate I didn't see you" to "I nearly unintentionally killed you but I refuse to apologise because I did not mean it."
Etcetera. It is flawed reasoning to assume that the intention is all that matters.
Polanski is a moron.
Farage would have looked the bigger man if he'd just said he thought Polanski's tweet was ill judged in light of Anne Widdecombe's murder and left it at that. Polanski is an amateur and should have been more careful about what he was retweeting but he's obviously not inciting people to murder Farage and so he was right to acknowledge his error without making an apology for something he didn't intend to happen.
It's also deep!y ironic that me (of all people) can make a post on here that is both critical of Nigel Farage and supportive of Sam Polanski and still get stuck for it.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
monkers
Shaman
He isn't. You just don't like him, and nobody requires you to. When Polanski was first elected to his role he did say he intended to mirror Farage's populist approach without the nationalism.
This doesn't mean that I think Polanski is the solution to what was becoming a rise of Reform, but he has certainly damaged the dogma of Starmer in Labour, and damaged Reform.
My objection is, that unlike Caroline Lucas, he seems to have forgetten his place within the Green Party. He is not the selected candidate in the party to become Prime Minister - there isn't one, and won't be one until the days comes. His role is to be leader. We might say the same about Farage, I don't happen to know, but has Reform every been given the opportunity to decide who will become PM if the party win a general election?
If you say so. I think he makes Rick from The Young Ones look like Abraham Lincoln but YMMV
AndyRM
Elder Goth
Professional politician vs satire from 40 years ago?
Fabulously relevant comparison there.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
I really don't know why it's so hard for politicians just to make a proper apology. A life lesson I suggest to the impressionable minds I get to play with is that it's better to apologise at the first opportunity, even if you're not sure you've screwed up. And none of this "I'm sorry if you were offended" crap. Just say "I'm sorry for my mistake [or whatever]." Once you've gone past that first opportunity to do the right thing (even if it wasn't your fault the thing happened), anything else is just catch up. Apologise first, and disarm the prosecution. Then explain/excuse later, if you need to.
Here endeth today's homily.
