Donald I, emperor of the world.

[C R]

Donnie encouraged to attend football matches where the fans speak English 'cos those damn bunch of lefty loons are chanting stuff about Epstein

I think you meant matches where fans DON'T speak English.

 

[secretsqirrel]

I think you meant matches where fans DON'T speak English.

or ‘discouraged‘

 

[Rusty Nails]

I think you meant matches where fans DON'T speak English.

I expect Trump will soon rename the English language as the American language or Great American language.

 

[All uphill]

I expect Trump will soon rename the English language as the American language or Great American language.

Of which we speak an inferior dialect

 

[C R]

Of which we speak an inferior dialect

I seem to remember reading somewhere that US English is closer to Elisabethan English than British English is, so they are probably right.

I am making a joke, please, don't take this as a serious philological point.

 

[briantrumpet]

I seem to remember reading somewhere that US English is closer to Elisabethan English than British English is, so they are probably right.

I am making a joke, please, don't take this as a serious philological point.

It's always fun skewering pedants who pour scorn on all US English: all too often one can just point out that they've preserved a form that was common in English three hundred years ago with a perfect etymological lineage (e.g. the spellings of tire & curb, or 'plew', the past tense of 'plough'). Not that I like US English, but that's usually taste rather than logic.

 

[Pinno718]

I think you meant matches where fans DON'T speak English.

Did you watch it 'cos it's quite funny?

 

[Pblakeney]

It's always fun skewering pedants who pour scorn on all US English: all too often one can just point out that they've preserved a form that was common in English three hundred years ago with a perfect etymological lineage (e.g. the spellings of tire & curb, or 'plew', the past tense of 'plough'). Not that I like US English, but that's usually taste rather than logic.

I still like the idea (true or not) that US English is the way it is to save money on telegrams.
As posted by someone who I’d give credit if I could remember.

 

[C R]

Did you watch it 'cos it's quite funny?

I did.

 

[Ian H]

I seem to remember reading somewhere that US English is closer to Elisabethan English than British English is, so they are probably right.

I am making a joke, please, don't take this as a serious philological point.

Of course US English is not homogenous. Both accent and language vary considerably.

 

[icowden]

It's always fun skewering pedants who pour scorn on all US English: all too often one can just point out that they've preserved a form that was common in English three hundred years ago with a perfect etymological lineage (e.g. the spellings of tire & curb, or 'plew', the past tense of 'plough'). Not that I like US English, but that's usually taste rather than logic.

Indeed. I remember a while back reading a thread that had blown up around someone castigating a Nigerian for using "aks" instead of "ask". It was pointed out by a linguist that we all used to say "aks" or "ax" up until the scandinavian settlers reversed it to "ask". Ax was commonly accepted for about a thousand years up until the 1600s at least.

 

[briantrumpet]

Indeed. I remember a while back reading a thread that had blown up around someone castigating a Nigerian for using "aks" instead of "ask". It was pointed out by a linguist that we all used to say "aks" or "ax" up until the scandinavian settlers reversed it to "ask". Ax was commonly accepted for about a thousand years up until the 1600s at least.

People have so many hang-ups/biases about language, and generally on social media I don't comment, unless someone's being a dick about it by trying to denigrate someone whom they are accusing of some terrible linguistic crime while just communicating stuff.

I got one the other day who poo-pooed 'coronated'... "How ridiculous, it's 'crowned'!", but they didn't seem to be impressed by my pointing them to the OED entry for 'coronated' dating from the 1600s. Again, even if it wouldn't be my choice of word, it's there, in the dictionary.

 

[All uphill]

People have so many hang-ups/biases about language, and generally on social media I don't comment, unless someone's being a dick about it by trying to denigrate someone whom they are accusing of some terrible linguistic crime while just communicating stuff.

I got one the other day who poo-pooed 'coronated'... "How ridiculous, it's 'crowned'!", but they didn't seem to be impressed by my pointing them to the OED entry for 'coronated' dating from the 1600s. Again, even if it wouldn't be my choice of word, it's there, in the dictionary.

And, of course, it shouldn't matter what is in a dictionary, or how old a word is. If it helps a phrase or sentence get a point across then it has achieved its purpose.

Using "coronated" could just be someone's way of communicating that they want to annoy a pedant.

 

[briantrumpet]

And, of course, it shouldn't matter what is in a dictionary, or how old a word is. If it helps a phrase or sentence get a point across then it has achieved its purpose.

Using "coronated" could just be someone's way of communicating that they want to annoy a pedant.

I use dictionaries for two things:

1) To understand words better, and words are fucking amazing so I like reading about them in any case.
2) To hit pedants over the head with. Metaphorically, obviously.

And just a reminder, it's worth having a library card just to get online access to the full OED, which is just amazing.

 

[briantrumpet]