Donald I, emperor of the world.

[Pinno718]

Oi BT: shift that ^ sh*t over to the thread you created. Ta please muchly.

 

[BoldonLad]

Incorrect - despite its much lower per capita spend on the NHS, the UK has consistently matched or been better than the US, I think because life expectancy of the poor is disproportionately worse in the US, including higher infant mortality.

Anyway, this is a discussion for the health systems thread, as it's not yet Trump-specific, but expect infant mortality in the US to rise significantly if vaccine usage is reduced because of RFK Jnr.

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apologies for being in the wrong thread.

The difference in life expectancy, although of course significant if it happens to be your life, is surprisingly small for the much praised NHS.

 

[briantrumpet]

Oi BT: shift that ^ sh*t over to the thread you created. Ta please muchly.

Apologies DI @Pinno718 🧵👮‍♂️

I was just replying, but carrying on now in the correct place, sir.

 

[briantrumpet]

If this was in Russia, Powell would be well advised to avoid high buildings after this.

https://bsky.app/profile/therickydavila.bsky.social/post/3lur55rhn6c2n

 

[secretsqirrel]

Yes, it's in that short clip. They really go to town on the small weener theme.

but can he make it stand up in court….

 

[C R]

Imagine Melania being deposed under oath about the subject.

 

[orraloon]

Paging Stormy D, paging Stormy D...

 

[Stevo 666]

Not even slightly Stevo ... I gave your leg the gentlest of friendly pulls, but you can't stop yourself from reacting. Let it go.

Keep trying Better luck next time...

 

[Psamathe]

If this was in Russia, Powell would be well advised to avoid high buildings after this.

https://bsky.app/profile/therickydavila.bsky.social/post/3lur55rhn6c2n

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Saw that clip on TV and Trump clearly prepared his ambush (he had the printed letter ready hidden in his pocket but it completely failed as Powel knew his stuff and defended himself eg "You are including a 3rd building that was finished 5? years ago". Trump fell flat on his face.

Trump does seem to be losing his "touch". MAGA are no longer just looking where he points, old tricks are not working, enough elected Republicans are not blindly doing what he tells them to do.

Ian

 

[Stevo 666]

I presume this was for follow up physio or some such as collarbones don't normally need any treatment other than a sling.

Nope, had a bad enough break to require surgery and a titanium upgrade. Had a couple of sessions of physio but the main thing was letting it heal properly for 6 weeks or so.

 

[briantrumpet]

Saw that clip on TV and Trump clearly prepared his ambush (he had the printed letter ready hidden in his pocket but it completely failed as Powel knew his stuff and defended himself eg "You are including a 3rd building that was finished 5? years ago". Trump fell flat on his face.

Trump does seem to be losing his "touch". MAGA are no longer just looking where he points, old tricks are not working, enough elected Republicans are not blindly doing what he tells them to do.

Ian

Yup. Trump obviously doesn't expect others to be able to read things better than he can (at least, without picture aids). His mistake was to try to pull the stunt live, when Powell could get his refutation in unedited.

 

[Stevo 666]

But that's just the premium. You also have to pay the co-pay. And then that only covers what your insurer is prepared to cover and you have to pay cash for the rest. Of course, if you have any pre-existing medical conditions you can expect those to be excluded or limited for coverage. And then your coverage may not cover you for all hospitals...

It's an absolute shoot show.

As above, it was not meant to be a wider discussion on the merits or demerits of US healthcare. However if I look at my total tax bill and apply the % of national expenditure om the NHS to that number, it would very likely buy more than enough cover in the US.

 

[monkers]

Keep trying Better luck next time...

Another day of delicacy - let it go. It was the gentlest of teases.

 

[First Aspect]

As above, it was not meant to be a wider discussion on the merits or demerits of US healthcare. However if I look at my total tax bill and apply the % of national expenditure om the NHS to that number, it would very likely buy more than enough cover in the US.

So I looked at an NI calculator, and $7500 is about £5600. You pay that much employee NI on a salary of about £180k. Well done Stevo.

If you are thinking of total contributions, you get to that level at a salary of more like £40k, (the total for £180k being more like £20k.)

I suppose the question is whether that's causing wage suppression, and if so by how much. Hard to know really, without comparing what you get for your £5600 in the US, so you know how much the equivalent to NHS cover would cost. The cost for comparison is also going to be wildly different if you have dependents, because for two kids your bill is more like £15k in the US isn't it.

Your notional £180k earner (let's call them Stevo or Stevette) is probably going to end up subsidizing others. So is that the sort of society you want to live in, or do you prefer the eat what you kill society in the US?

 

[C R]

So I looked at an NI calculator, and $7500 is about £5600. You pay that much employee NI on a salary of about £180k. Well done Stevo.

If you are thinking of total contributions, you get to that level at a salary of more like £40k, (the total for £180k being more like £20k.)

I suppose the question is whether that's causing wage suppression, and if so by how much. Hard to know really, without comparing what you get for your £5600 in the US, so you know how much the equivalent to NHS cover would cost. The cost for comparison is also going to be wildly different if you have dependents, because for two kids your bill is more like £15k in the US isn't it.

Your notional £180k earner (let's call them Stevo or Stevette) is probably going to end up subsidizing others. So is that the sort of society you want to live in, or do you prefer the eat what you kill society in the US?

You and your facts. Next you're going to tell us that blood letting doesn't cure diseases.