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First Aspect

Senior Member
I don't understand the outrage about the Epstein files, given what Grumps has already been convicted of.

Mind you, this is the nation that substitutes "damn" with "darn" in TV shows showing murders. Moral parallel universe.
 

briantrumpet

Veteran
I don't understand the outrage about the Epstein files, given what Grumps has already been convicted of.

Mind you, this is the nation that substitutes "damn" with "darn" in TV shows showing murders. Moral parallel universe.

I think even amongst most Republicans (and evangelicals) paedophilia isn't a vote-winner. If he was raping 14yo trafficked girls, which seems rather likely, then I think that could tip the balance. Well, I'd hope so.
 

First Aspect

Senior Member
The MAGA crowd seem more upset that the client list including the alien lizard people disguised as Democrats aren't being released than whether Trump is on the same client list.
 
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Guru
I will reprise my Kasandra tribute act and point out that MAGA turning on Trump has no positives for anyone but MAGA. If Trump goes, Vance takes his place. There's no scenario in which the current MAGA internecine fight ends up in a positive conclusion.
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
I thought you lot would be up in Scotland, cheering on Trump ?

Don't worry, I think we've got this.

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AndyRM

Elder Goth
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All uphill

Well-Known Member
I will reprise my Kasandra tribute act and point out that MAGA turning on Trump has no positives for anyone but MAGA. If Trump goes, Vance takes his place. There's no scenario in which the current MAGA internecine fight ends up in a positive conclusion.

I am in the Cassandra camp too.

If Trump's base wavers I believe he will find a pretext to call in the military and impose martial law. I don't see him going peacefully and I don't see the establishment standing up to him. The time for that passed ages ago.*

* I have been totally wrong with every political prediction I have made for more than 50 years.
 
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I am in the Cassandra camp too.

If Trump's base wavers I believe he will find a pretext to call in the military and impose martial law. I don't see him going peacefully and I don't see the establishment standing up to him. The time for that passed ages ago.*

* I have been totally wrong with every political prediction I have made for more than 50 years.

Let's hope this one is wrong too.
 

Pinno718

Well-Known Member
I don't understand the outrage about the Epstein files, given what Grumps has already been convicted of.

I think you are saying that he's done enough to warrant not being POTUS?
Although, even in that context, that is a bit of a dismissive statement. Hundreds of girls were trafficked and abused by Epstein and how many were gagged or paid off? Who was in the ring?
It's the lid on the can of worms that needs to be lifted.
 
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