AndyRM
Elder Goth
I appreciate the opportunity.
Donald I, emperor of the world.
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I appreciate the opportunity.
CXRAndy
Squire
If they are doing it legal and have work, pay their way
Rusty Nails
Country Member
Or…not everyone agreed with his version of how things should be, but those who agreed with him were blinded by the context given by the algorithms their preferences led them to and his friends turned him into a hero and saviour. That’s the internet for you.
View: https://youtu.be/5kbo8pUDcHQ?feature=shared
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
CXRAndy
Squire
You are just regurgitating the same bile from democrats.
This man had the good grace to admit his error
Even Alister Campbell had the good grace to admit he was wrong
Rusty Nails
Country Member
My irony meter just exploded.
There's plenty of "othering" on this forum. One poster is routinely referred to as "It" and the self appointed forum police encourage other posters not to interact with them. I was also recently likened to Tommy Robinson for making some fairly innocuous observations about the migrant hotel protests. For what it's worth I think NCAAP has some good debates.
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
So he never said any of those things? Requires a yes/no answer.
CXRAndy
Squire
Its Brian's attempt at cancel culture
Doesn't want to see, hear, read an opposing comment
😁
midlandsgrimpeur
Regular
Fair point, but I am specifically relating to Kirk as that was the topic at hand. When one states, as he did, that you see a black pilot and wonder whether they are "qualified" that is a very specific statement that highlights clear racially based prejudice. Such statements also draw upon centuries of racial prejudice and notions of people of colour being intellectually inferior, or could only be in a position of authority because they have been placed there due to affirmative action (another of Kirk's favoured tropes). As I said, Kirk's murder is abhorrent but that doesn't absolve him of scrutiny of his views and beliefs, many of which were specifically designed to promote discriminatory ideology.
It is also a very different thing to comparing someone to Tommy Robinson. Not that I agree with someone comparing you to him, it is just a different thing and definitely not 'othering' IMO.
CXRAndy
Squire
I put some those comments into searches. All of them are taken out of context, contorted what he said.
The comment about daughters being stopped from taking the pill.
What he actually said was
@TPUSAFaith (2024), argue Kirk urged parents to teach daughters biblical values, not forcibly deny contraception. In a 2023 interview, Kirk said, "Parents should raise daughters to value life and family, not rely on pills to avoid consequences."
He was talking public policy not about individuals.
The stoning of gays has been covered by Campbells apology
Another, again, he's coming at ot from his Christian beliefs
Traditional Gender Roles and Marriage: In a 2023 episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, Kirk said, "The Bible lays out a clear structure for the family: men lead, women nurture, and together they build a godly home." He argued that modern feminism has "disrupted" this dynamic, leading to societal decline
CXRAndy
Squire
No, Charlie Kirk did not explicitly say the phrase "when you see a black pilot" (or any close variation) based on extensive searches of his X posts, podcast transcripts, and public statements. However, Kirk has repeatedly criticized Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives in the airline industry, particularly regarding the hiring and promotion of Black (and other minority) pilots. His rhetoric often implies that race-based hiring prioritizes diversity over qualifications, potentially endangering safety—a view that critics have labeled as racially insensitive or dog-whistling to white nationalist sentiments. This could be the source of the paraphrased claim in your query, as it echoes common online memes and criticisms of DEI (e.g., jokes about "diversity hires" in high-stakes roles like piloting).
Below, I'll break down the evidence from Kirk's record, the context of his comments, and why the specific phrasing might be a misattribution.
### Kirk's Statements on Black Pilots and DEI Hiring
Kirk's commentary on this topic surged in early 2024 amid backlash against United Airlines' announcement of plans to train and hire more women and people of color as pilots (aiming for 50% by 2030). He framed this as "anti-meritocracy" and a safety risk, often tying it to broader attacks on "woke" policies under the Biden administration. Key examples include:
- **April 2021 X Post on Airline Hiring Priorities**: In a post reacting to reports of airlines emphasizing diversity in hiring, Kirk wrote: "Democrat logic: Skin color & gender matter more when hiring airline pilots than skill level & qualification. Leftism is becoming more and more of a dangerous ideology every day." This directly questions the competence of pilots selected based on race or gender, implying Black or female pilots might be underqualified. It received over 9,000 likes and was widely shared, but it doesn't use the "when you see" phrasing.
- **January 2024 Podcast Discussion**: On *The Charlie Kirk Show*, Kirk interviewed former FAA Safety Team Representative Kyle Bailey about the "diversity pilot controversy." Kirk stated: "Are safety outcomes being imperiled by companies like United that are forcing DEI racial and gender quotas on pilots?" He argued that lowering standards for diversity hires (including Black pilots) could lead to accidents, citing a supposed FAA policy shift under Biden. Bailey echoed concerns about "DEI over merit." This episode was promoted on X with a link to Rumble, framing it as evidence that "woke" hiring endangers lives. Critics, including Media Matters, accused Kirk of stoking racial fears by implying Black pilots are inherently less qualified.
- **Broader DEI Critiques Involving Race**: Kirk frequently amplified stories questioning minority professionals in aviation and other fields. For instance:
- In March 2023, he posted about the Pentagon's "Diversity Chief" expressing exhaustion with "white folx," tying it to a "not serious country" narrative that extended to critiques of racial quotas in the military and airlines.
- In October 2024, Kirk shared a video from a private plane cockpit showing an unidentified object (UFO-like), but this was unrelated to race—though it highlighted his interest in aviation topics.
- Post-2024, amid ongoing DEI debates, Kirk retweeted and commented on airline incidents (e.g., a 2025 X post on a flight delay, blaming "DEI hires"), but none matched the query phrasing.
No verbatim quote like "when you see a black pilot" appears in his X history (searched via keyword and semantic tools for terms like "black pilot," "see a black pilot," or related DEI aviation comments), podcast archives, or Turning Point USA events up to his death on September 10, 2025. Fact-checks from outlets like Snopes and PolitiFact confirm Kirk's pattern of anti-DEI rhetoric but note no exact match for inflammatory one-liners like this.
### Context and Why the Claim Might Persist
The query's phrasing resembles a satirical or meme-ified version of anti-DEI jokes that circulated online around 2021–2024, often in conservative circles. For example:
- Memes on platforms like 4chan or Reddit (e.g., r/TheRightCantMeme) depicted scenarios like "When you see a [minority] pilot, brace for impact," mocking affirmative action. These were sometimes attributed to figures like Kirk without evidence, especially after high-profile stories like the 2023 Alaska Airlines door plug incident, where DEI was falsely blamed.
- Kirk's allies, such as Tucker Carlson or Laura Loomer, made similar remarks (e.g., Carlson in 2021 quipped about "diversity hires" in aviation safety), which could lead to conflation. A 2024 viral clip from Kirk's show was edited in TikToks to imply he said something more explicit, but originals show he focused on "quotas" rather than direct racial slurs.
- Post-Kirk's assassination, his critics amplified past statements to portray him as racist, including DEI comments. For instance, a September 2025 X thread by @BLMNYC referenced his pilot hiring post as "proof Kirk hated Black excellence," but again, no exact quote.
Supporters of Kirk argue his comments were about meritocracy, not race—e.g., in a 2024 TPUSA speech, he said, "DEI puts ideology over safety, regardless of who it affects." They point to his praise for qualified Black conservatives (like in a 2018 post about young Black leaders meeting Trump) as evidence he's not anti-Black. However, organizations like the NAACP and Color of Change have tracked his rhetoric as contributing to anti-Black stereotypes in professional fields.
### Conclusion
Charlie Kirk did not say "when you see a black pilot" or a similar phrase. The claim likely stems from misattributions or exaggerations of his well-documented criticisms of DEI hiring in aviation, where he implied that prioritizing race (including for Black pilots) over skills is dangerous. These views, expressed in X posts and podcasts, were part of his broader anti-"woke" activism but have been condemned as racially charged. If this refers to a specific clip, meme, or altered quote you've seen (e.g., from a video or another "Kirk"), provide more details, and I can investigate further. For accurate context, Kirk's actual statements focused on policy critiques rather than overt racial commentary.
Ianonabike
New Member
Let he who is without algorithmic taint cast the first stone. Or something.
Speaking of going biblical...
View: https://x.com/the_jefferymead/status/1967399806151905705
What it means to sow hate is a good conversation to have.
