Donald I, emperor of the world.
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Ian H
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The US military strikes on three of Iran’s nuclear facilities last weekend did not destroy the core components of the country’s nuclear program and likely only set it back by months, according to an early US intelligence assessment that was described by seven people briefed on it...
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites
Pinno718
Active Member
We know that and Hegseth chucked a wobbly at the press and there was no 'new information' regarding the efficacy of the Iran strikes. Apparently, according to a Pentagon source, 'Our' Pete spends 50% of his time searching for leaks.
(Even some Fox news commentators praised the professionalism of the 2 reporters Hegseth had a go at).
Pblakeney
Well-Known Member
One wonders, if there is no information then how do they know it was obliterated? 🤔
More in hope I think.
Bazzer
Senior Member
Yeh but the Secretary of Defence Hegseth, says "[it was] a resounding success" and "Trump directed the most complex and secretive military operation in history".
So, (conveniently) forgetting events in the second world war such as the D day landings and Bletchley Park, (or being American perhaps having a limited view of European events), who should we believe? Someone who was and possibly still is a p1ss head, or intelligence officials?
secretsqirrel
Regular
Operation Spiders Web was only a few weeks ago too, complex, secretive and audacious and resourceful.
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
Well, that's blind, unthinking, adoring & unquestioningly credulous faith for you. Must be nice.
Pinno718
Active Member
'Anti US'? I mean, wtaf? The journalists at the press conference have been reporting wars and security issues for years and years and are seasoned in their field. Far longer than Hegseth. Jennifer Griffin, the highly respected journalist asked a simple question over the actual extent of the Iran bombings and Hegseth responded with a personal attack. He resorted to a personal attack because the claims of 'obliteration' are false. Trump immediately got on his media platform to diss CNN and the journalist in question. This is a sure sign that the administration failed to spin that sh*t and Trump was made to look like the liar he is which was embarrassing to him and his ego. So he resorted to further personal attacks.
@MAGA troll: It is plainly obvious that you are blind to Trumps corruption, his lies, his assembly of a congregation of malicious and incompetent individuals. Respond to the pregnant woman detained by ICE and who was given no pre natal care and ended up delivering her own baby which was still born. That account is brutal. Absolutely brutal. That's the sort of thing that happens under malevolent regimes, not the USA - 'leader of the free world'. I bet she would have had care if she was white. What about the estimated 16m people who will have there Medicaid* cut through the 'big beautiful bill'. What do you think of billionaires getting tax breaks? What do you think of war veterans not being able to access pensions and welfare to which they are entitled to? What do you think of the clause in the bill which basically facilitates no regulation of AI and personal data for 10 years? What do you think of deporting people without due process? What do you think of beating up an alleged 'illegal' who was a humble landscaper, father of 3 US marines? What do you think of masked, un-identified individuals simply abducting people because they look a bit different? International rules state that in a case of deportation, they should be deported back to their country of origin. What the Trump administration is doing is a contravention of human rights on may levels including the USA's own constitution.
Do you understand the Christian Nationalist agenda, what they represent and what they espouse? Do you understand the depth of the misogyny and racism and the inherent link with far right groups within the Christian Nationalist movement? This is factual, not leftie bollox. You do not have to be a woolly liberal to oppose the evangelist movement and their innate fascism. If you do not see their fascistic behaviour and the rolling out of the intrinsically linked Project 2025, then you really are dumb.
You are either morally lacking or a troll. Which one is it?
*Imagine if I said to you that you or your family may no longer access free healthcare under the NHS? You live here under that umbrella, so be careful what you say.
@MAGA troll: It is plainly obvious that you are blind to Trumps corruption, his lies, his assembly of a congregation of malicious and incompetent individuals. Respond to the pregnant woman detained by ICE and who was given no pre natal care and ended up delivering her own baby which was still born. That account is brutal. Absolutely brutal. That's the sort of thing that happens under malevolent regimes, not the USA - 'leader of the free world'. I bet she would have had care if she was white. What about the estimated 16m people who will have there Medicaid* cut through the 'big beautiful bill'. What do you think of billionaires getting tax breaks? What do you think of war veterans not being able to access pensions and welfare to which they are entitled to? What do you think of the clause in the bill which basically facilitates no regulation of AI and personal data for 10 years? What do you think of deporting people without due process? What do you think of beating up an alleged 'illegal' who was a humble landscaper, father of 3 US marines? What do you think of masked, un-identified individuals simply abducting people because they look a bit different? International rules state that in a case of deportation, they should be deported back to their country of origin. What the Trump administration is doing is a contravention of human rights on may levels including the USA's own constitution.
Do you understand the Christian Nationalist agenda, what they represent and what they espouse? Do you understand the depth of the misogyny and racism and the inherent link with far right groups within the Christian Nationalist movement? This is factual, not leftie bollox. You do not have to be a woolly liberal to oppose the evangelist movement and their innate fascism. If you do not see their fascistic behaviour and the rolling out of the intrinsically linked Project 2025, then you really are dumb.
You are either morally lacking or a troll. Which one is it?
*Imagine if I said to you that you or your family may no longer access free healthcare under the NHS? You live here under that umbrella, so be careful what you say.
Pinno718
Active Member
Ignorance is bliss.
First Aspect
Well-Known Member
Can't disagree, but that's half an hour of your life you will never get back I'm afraid. (Unless you were dictating, in which case 15 minutes)
I preferred your Campag delta brakes avatar, by the way.
