Donald I, emperor of the world.

[C R]

I don't underestimate their significance. They are not anything near approaching the Final Solution though and constantly drawing an equivalence is hyperbolic.



I taught about the Holocaust on and off for years, thanks. Perhaps you should read some non fiction about it to understand why your constant comparisons are a bit offensive, even to me who isn't a 'professional Jew' as you call them.

... well don't bring Anne Frank into it then.


It's about the Holocaust. Surely they allowed to prioritise remembering their 6 million dead. Their reason for existing doesn't have to be to serve other people's wider interest.

Nevermind

 

[C R]

I don't underestimate their significance. They are not anything near approaching the Final Solution though and constantly drawing an equivalence is hyperbolic.



I taught about the Holocaust on and off for years, thanks. Perhaps you should read some non fiction about it to understand why your constant comparisons are a bit offensive, even to me who isn't a 'professional Jew' as you call them.

... well don't bring Anne Frank into it then.


It's about the Holocaust. Surely they allowed to prioritise remembering their 6 million dead. Their reason for existing doesn't have to be to serve other people's wider interest.

Oh, and the expression I use is professional semites. Have you stopped beating your partner yet? It wasn't only jews that died in concentration camps.

 

[Pinno718]

The point is more that Walz wasn't claiming that the situation in the US is identical to the Holocaust, but that the parallels can't be ignored (children hiding at home for fear of being abducted to goodness knows where). Surely the point of the Holocaust Museum should be exactly so people can see parallels between historic and current events so they can see how the Holocaust started, and in order to stop contemporary events following the path of the Holocaust.

My assumption in this case is that the museum has been leant on because the Trump regime doesn't want people to make those parallels, because they are too close to the truth.

Precisely.

@AuroraSaab

If you sum up all the actions - the removal of 'woke' literature' from the army Libraries, the removal of placards and signs which displayed information about slavery, the bastardisation of plaques underneath past presidents, the attacks on Universities and the establishment, the personal attacks on individuals present and past who have sought accountability, the string of personal vendetta, the pardoning of known criminals, the use of your position to make massive personal financial gain, the implied support of authoritarian regimes (Russia et al), those individuals deeply involved in the government with fascistic tendencies (Musk, Miller, Thiel. Russel Vought and his Project 2025), the promotion of corporation over equality and accountability, the attempts to compromise elections -to rig them basically, the attacks on dissenting media through legal authorities set up to provide fairness, the dismantling of institutions which monitor weather, disease, statistics, the stripping of key federal agencies, the attack on the judiciary, the appointment of high court judges to pervert (and prevent) the course of democratic/judicial outcome, the demonisation of ethnic groups... you have fascism.
Without successful counter, the US will become a fully blown dictatorship. They are half way there.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

The irony is, of course, that the Trump regime has gutted the Department of Education, so the poor & uneducated will remain that way, while the richer educated libs support redressing the balance through public education.

A point conveniently overlooked. The same with our class system here, we have centuries of the wealthy elite holding back others and convincing those they subjugate that it is actually the "lefties" that are the problem.

 

[Pinno718]

I wonder if there'll come a point where Trump decides to throw the ICE agents under the bus (going beyond their powers, not sanctioned etc.) and, if that does happen, what the reaction will be.

I think ICE is orchestrated by Miller and the architect is Russell Vought.

I have said this all long (and so far I am right). However, It may not unfortunately change the outcome as the reptiles behind the scenes are clever enough to manipulate the narrative but: this bunch of malicious incompetents aren't nearly as organised as the 3rd Reich.

 

[briantrumpet]

"Why are you so obsessed by US politics and Trump?"

Will this kind of thing do for starters?

 

[CXRAndy]

The Holocaust did not start with the extermination of 6 million Jews, that is how it ended. The US is just at the beginning of the comparison. Who knows where it would end up if unchecked? Thankfully, it would appear that red lines have been hit and it is getting checked.

So a very very long way to go to see if the gas 6 million people.

I bet you £1000 payable to your favourite charity that Trump doesn't gas anyone like what you proclaim

 

[briantrumpet]

Someone was going to do it... Downfall spoof for Bovino...

https://bsky.app/profile/tom.medsky.social/post/3mdf22bpdz225

 

[swee'pea99]

I think ICE is orchestrated by Miller and the architect is Russell Vought.

I have said this all long (and so far I am right). However, It may not unfortunately change the outcome as the reptiles behind the scenes are clever enough to manipulate the narrative but: this bunch of malicious incompetents aren't nearly as organised as the 3rd Reich.

Another key difference, which I suspect may, when push comes as it very well might to shove, is the position of the US military. Hitler did have to deal with a bit of grumbling from old school types in the Wehrmacht, but they were the outliers. The overwhelming majority were Nazi loyalists. Not so in America, where most senior brassnecks are hardcore fourth generation West Point, and while it will go against every bone in their body to defy orders from the Commander in Chief, they know - and I'm guesing will show - that their ultimate loyalty, sworn on oath, is not to any incumbent president but to the constitution.

 

[briantrumpet]

Can't think why Trump wanted US Tiktok to be owned by Trump- supporting Larry Ellison. A total mystery.

 

[C R]

Another key difference, which I suspect may, when push comes as it very well might to shove, is the position of the US military. Hitler did have to deal with a bit of grumbling from old school types in the Wehrmacht, but they were the outliers. The overwhelming majority were Nazi loyalists. Not so in America, where most senior brassnecks are hardcore fourth generation West Point, and while it will go against every bone in their body to defy orders from the Commander in Chief, they know - and I'm guesing will show - that their ultimate loyalty, sworn on oath, is not to any incumbent president but to the constitution.

[Casandra]
The german army were nth generation military AND staunch Nazis. I'll be pleasantly surprised if what you suggest might happen happens.
[/Casandra]

 

[briantrumpet]

What could possibly go wrong? (Let's ignore the ICE at Winter Olympics jokes...)

 

[TailWindHome]

The Auschwitz Memorial seems to take a different view

 

[C R]

What could possibly go wrong? (Let's ignore the ICE at Winter Olympics jokes...)

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Have they consulted with Meloni on the deployment or are they following the same pattern as in the US deployments where the local authorities have no say?

 

[C R]

The Auschwitz Memorial seems to take a different view

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I may not be totally mad after all.