laurentian
New Member
It never ceases to amaze me how animated, opinionated and vitriolic some people can get about matters that they have little understanding of, and that don't, have never, and probably never will affect them.
I can't recall ever having knowingly met a trans person and therefore, one has never had an effect on my life. I use the word "knowingly" advisedly there. It is quite possible that a trans man has stood next to me at a urinal, got changed next to me or even showered with me in a rugby club changing room. If they did, it affected me not one iota - and I would like to think it wouldn't.
I suspect many people on here, including those shouting about the issue, are similarly unaffected. Those that have knowingly met or engaged with a trans person probably know them or know people who know them and, even in this capacity, I suspect that the trans person they have met would be a vanishingly small percentage of the people that they have engaged with throughout their lives and have had little or no negative effect. In such circumstances, it seems bizarre to me that some people can get so angry or animated on the subject - a subject of which they have very little understanding or experience of.
Everything I have seen or heard on the subject leads me to believe that trans people deal with a terrible crisis of identity and a torturous existence on their route to transitioning but, once there, just want to live a life of whatever sex/gender they have chosen. Peacefully and in harmony with the rest of society. It is definitely not "men pretending o be women". Why anyone would choose to vilify someone who has chosen that path after such a struggle is beyond me and suggests they are just looking for something or someone to get mad about to impress or jump on some kind of bandwagon of intimidation, harassment and oppression in an attempt to improve their dearth of self worth.
The process of a legal necessity to make the definition must be a hard one and perhaps one that had to be made but how on earth people can celebrate it in the way that some people are is, frankly, sadistic. The absence of empathy speaks volumes for who they are as people and makes me wonder who or what the next target will be on their path to make themselves feel good.
Presumably, the women who I saw celebrating the fact that trans women will now be forced to use male toilets yesterday will also be celebrating when a ripped, bearded trans man uses their women only spaces (not to mention the idea that a non-trans man could now use those spaces under the guise of being trans) and those men who have been so vociferously supportive of this decision will be quite comfortable when a person who looks, sounds and acts just like a woman walks in to their toilet or changing room.
Very, very few people, a tiny, tiny percentage would be negatively affected by a trans woman using a woman's toilet or changing facility but it will absolutely affect 100% of trans women who now have to use men's facilities and, once again, they will have to endure the identity crisis and torture of their pre-trans lives.
It is desperately sad for them.
I can't recall ever having knowingly met a trans person and therefore, one has never had an effect on my life. I use the word "knowingly" advisedly there. It is quite possible that a trans man has stood next to me at a urinal, got changed next to me or even showered with me in a rugby club changing room. If they did, it affected me not one iota - and I would like to think it wouldn't.
I suspect many people on here, including those shouting about the issue, are similarly unaffected. Those that have knowingly met or engaged with a trans person probably know them or know people who know them and, even in this capacity, I suspect that the trans person they have met would be a vanishingly small percentage of the people that they have engaged with throughout their lives and have had little or no negative effect. In such circumstances, it seems bizarre to me that some people can get so angry or animated on the subject - a subject of which they have very little understanding or experience of.
Everything I have seen or heard on the subject leads me to believe that trans people deal with a terrible crisis of identity and a torturous existence on their route to transitioning but, once there, just want to live a life of whatever sex/gender they have chosen. Peacefully and in harmony with the rest of society. It is definitely not "men pretending o be women". Why anyone would choose to vilify someone who has chosen that path after such a struggle is beyond me and suggests they are just looking for something or someone to get mad about to impress or jump on some kind of bandwagon of intimidation, harassment and oppression in an attempt to improve their dearth of self worth.
The process of a legal necessity to make the definition must be a hard one and perhaps one that had to be made but how on earth people can celebrate it in the way that some people are is, frankly, sadistic. The absence of empathy speaks volumes for who they are as people and makes me wonder who or what the next target will be on their path to make themselves feel good.
Presumably, the women who I saw celebrating the fact that trans women will now be forced to use male toilets yesterday will also be celebrating when a ripped, bearded trans man uses their women only spaces (not to mention the idea that a non-trans man could now use those spaces under the guise of being trans) and those men who have been so vociferously supportive of this decision will be quite comfortable when a person who looks, sounds and acts just like a woman walks in to their toilet or changing room.
Very, very few people, a tiny, tiny percentage would be negatively affected by a trans woman using a woman's toilet or changing facility but it will absolutely affect 100% of trans women who now have to use men's facilities and, once again, they will have to endure the identity crisis and torture of their pre-trans lives.
It is desperately sad for them.