Gulf War No.37: Iranistan

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Psamathe

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Iran has closed the strait again.
But never fear Witkoff and Kushner on the case…….:banghead:
Pity but maybe mainly the reason. Can't say I'm surprised given the behaviour of Israel.

Maybe I'm being overly pessimistic but I can't see it staying open for long or reliably until somebody (Trûmp) gets Netanyahu/Israel to stop killing people.
 
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Pblakeney

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Pity but maybe mainly the reason. Can't say I'm surprised given the behaviour of Israel.

Maybe I'm being overly pessimistic but I can't see it staying open for long or reliably until somebody (Trûmp) gets Netanyahu/Israel to stop killing people.

This is precisely why the whole “peace deal” was a nonsense from the start.
Netanyahu does not want peace.
 

All uphill

Slow and steady
This is precisely why the whole “peace deal” was a nonsense from the start.
Netanyahu does not want peace.

Imo Trump doesn't have much control over Netanyahu, and Iran doesn't have much control over Hezbollah.

My uninformed view is that Iran knows that Trump is desperate to "move on" from this conflict and that they can push him to even further concessions.
 

Psamathe

Legendary Member
To me I can't see any way Israel can ever live in peace until it makes peace. Imprisonment without trial, human rights violations, ignoring International Law, mass killing of innocent civilians, obliterating communities, etc. is never going to even move towards peace.

Often said (by those who know better than me) that all wars end through diplomacy but Israel just seems to keep moving ever further from even considering diplomacy, just ever more killing innocent civilians (which must be a strong recruitment push for the opposing force).
 

Psamathe

Legendary Member
Imo Trump doesn't have much control over Netanyahu, and Iran doesn't have much control over Hezbollah.
No idea about Iranian control but my understanding is that Israel is very very dependent on the US for munitions. So I assume Trúmp can just say "next attack into Lebanon and all munitions supply stops". He's in effect stopped some munitions supply to UK where ordered (UK pays RRP) munitions have not been delivered because US wanted them for itself.
 
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