Gulf War No.37: Iranistan

[Blazing Saddles]

That on the basis of the post I replied to, UK is a legitimate target

It is.

 

[CXRAndy]

British bases now to be used by US miltary to continue miltary action against Iran

 

[BoldonLad]

Exactly. And this is why Starmer has been trying to distance the UK from the US. Yet we could still get drawn in.
All while muppets in this country saying that we should join in and go gang ho. All jolly good japes. 😡

Every Country has muppets.

I wasn't suggesting we should join in, rather stating that using the logic of your post, then, we (UK) are also a "legitimate" target, as are (presumably) our assets and citizens, not necessarily in UK.

 

[BoldonLad]

It is.

Thank you confirming that, have a nice day 😊

 

[Pblakeney]

Every Country has muppets.

I wasn't suggesting we should join in, rather stating that using the logic of your post, then, we (UK) are also a "legitimate" target, as are (presumably) our assets and citizens, not necessarily in UK.

Yes we are. Currently a lesser target (we are further away and not actively attacking Iran), but a target none the less. "Muppets" wasn't referring to yourself but aimed at BadEnoch and Reform. Quite happy to add on anyone else who thinks we should join in Donnie and Benjamin's war.

PS - Our base in Crete was one of the first targets.

 

[BoldonLad]

Yes we are. Currently a lesser target (we are further away and not actively attacking Iran), but a target none the less. "Muppets" wasn't referring to yourself but aimed at BadEnoch and Reform. Quite happy to add on anyone else who thinks we should join in Donnie and Benjamin's war.

PS - Our base in Crete was one of the first targets.

I didn't assume it was aimed at me personally, since I have not said a single thing which would suggest that I support the lunatic actions of USA and Israel, in fact, quite the reverse.

The Reform and Tory cries for us joining in, are, IMHO, to their detriment (electorally), which surely is a good thing? The only danger is if Starmer begins trying to emulate them.

 

[CXRAndy]

Air domination achieved


View: https://x.com/i/status/2029949021180035506

 

[spen666]

Those countries have US bases which is why Iran considers them a legitimate target.

So its ok to strike civilian targets like hotels if you are Iran ?
And the attacks on British sites in Cyprus that have nothing to do with this us/ israel attack


Think your excuses for Iran don't hold up to any scrutiny

 

[spen666]

That the Iranian regime is attacking it's neighbours is terrible, but let's be realistic here. It was predicted and is part of its desperation to cause a crisis in the region and damage the west by damaging its oils supplies, but has been brought about by a joint attack from the US and Israel, while negotiations were still taking place,

You mean the negotiations that had finished because Iran refused to compromise


Still trying to blame the US / Israel for Iran attacking civilian targets in countries that are not attacking Iran?

Shame you can't bring yourself to condemn Iranian actions like you do the US/ Israel actions

that is causing a huge multiple of deaths and damage in Iran compared to those neighbours, both of civilians and military, on a pretence of "imminent" danger from Iran.

In your quest for fairness, if you want to compare death tolls as a result there are less than twenty reported deaths in those neighbouring countries, compared to thousands in Iran, including those "regrettable" deaths of 150 schoolgirls...and Hegseth is boasting that there will be many more.

If you want fairness on figures, lets add in the tens of thousands of its own citizens Iran has killed this year alone




Another Iranaian apologist - excusing their terror acts on civilians

 

[Rusty Nails]

So its ok to strike civilian targets like hotels if you are Iran ?
And the attacks on British sites in Cyprus that have nothing to do with this us/ israel attack


Think your excuses for Iran don't hold up to any scrutiny

Nobody on this forum, afaics, has said it's OK.

They are all not unexpected collateral damage from a probably illegally started war (Oops, I mentioned illegal and now expect to be corrected by our resident legal expert).

These are not excuses for the actions but explanations of the sh*t that happens in war, especially illegal ones. Hegseth set the tone by stating that the military would follow "no stupid rules of engagement" during the conflict with Iran.

 

[Pinno718]

You mean the negotiations that had finished because Iran refused to compromise

Iran had conceded a lot of ground so I don't know what you're talking about. |I don't think you've ever known what you were talking about. Do you know what you're talking about?

Whilst you carp on about the civilian targets Iran has hit, the latest stats are that the US/Israel has hit over many hospitals and clinics so far.
More false relativism from you?
And do not try to give me any bollox about that being an accident.

Tehran IVF clinic devastated by US-Israeli attack as hospitals and homes hit​

Iranians describe the agony of not knowing the fate of their samples held in fertility centre badly damaged by war
and... https://www.bmj.com/content/392/bmj.s445 and... https://vocal.media/theSwamp/at-lea...acilities-hit-during-attacks-on-iran-who-says

This mirrors Netanyahoo's indiscriminate bombing of similar facilities in Gaza and they aren't randomly bombing. They have the precision to hit where the former Ayatollah was so there's no excuse and no justification.

 

[spen666]

Nobody on this forum, afaics, has said it's OK.

People won't condemn them though but are quite happy to condemn the USA though
Says a lot about them

They are all not unexpected collateral damage from a probably illegally started war (Oops, I mentioned illegal and now expect to be corrected by our resident legal expert).

These are not excuses for the actions but explanations of the sh*t that happens in war, especially illegal ones. Hegseth set the tone by stating that the military would follow "no stupid rules of engagement" during the conflict with Iran.

 

[spen666]

Iran had conceded a lot of ground so I don't know what you're talking about. |I don't think you've ever known what you were talking about. Do you know what you're talking about?

Whilst you carp on about the civilian targets Iran has hit, the latest stats are that the US/Israel has hit over many hospitals and clinics so far.
More false relativism from you?

So we ignore those killed by Iran?


A death is a death, irrespective of which side causes it

And do not try to give me any bollox about that being an accident.

Tehran IVF clinic devastated by US-Israeli attack as hospitals and homes hit​

Iranians describe the agony of not knowing the fate of their samples held in fertility centre badly damaged by war
and... https://www.bmj.com/content/392/bmj.s445 and... https://vocal.media/theSwamp/at-lea...acilities-hit-during-attacks-on-iran-who-says

This mirrors Netanyahoo's indiscriminate bombing of similar facilities in Gaza and they aren't randomly bombing. They have the precision to hit where the former Ayatollah was so there's no excuse and no justification.

Still ignoring the attacks by Iran on its own citizens or the attacks on civilian targets, in countries that have not even threatened Ira


Its clear your position

 

[Rusty Nails]

You mean the negotiations that had finished because Iran refused to compromise

Neither side said the negotiations had finished.

Still trying to blame the US / Israel for Iran attacking civilian targets in countries that are not attacking Iran?

Blaming the US and Israel for starting the war in the way they did.

Shame you can't bring yourself to condemn Iranian actions like you do the US/ Israel actions

Of course I condemn Iran for killing civilians. But I reserve most of my condemnation for the countries that started this unnecessary war.

If you want fairness on figures, lets add in the tens of thousands of its own citizens Iran has killed this year alone

The Iranian regime was an evil one but that is not the reason that the US and Israel ( who also have a recent history of killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians and children of their neighbours) started this war.

Another Iranaian apologist - excusing their terror acts on civilians

I would respectfully ask where I have excused their actions? You are deliberately confusing 'excuse' with 'understand'. Surprising from such an incisive legal mind.

 

[Pinno718]

So we ignore those killed by Iran?


A death is a death, irrespective of which side causes it


Still ignoring the attacks by Iran on its own citizens or the attacks on civilian targets, in countries that have not even threatened Ira


Its clear your position

It is? You mean that you have made your mind up.
Like others, I do not condone the killing of civilians in any shape or form. The US/Israeli strikes as far as I am concerned has no reason therefore it's unprovoked.
Iran is going to retaliate by foul means or fair.
Care to comment about targeting medical facilities by US/I?