Gulf War No.37: Iranistan

[Rusty Nails]

So the logic should be it's not our business if America and Israel bomb them either? Injustice, including murdering peaceful protesters, is everybody's business surely, regardless of where it occurs.

Of course we must protect the right to pick and chooseand even ignore other countries' injustices based on whatever suits us best at the time...as individuals or as a country.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

It’s their country & their business. It doesn’t have anything to do with us. When the insider traders conflict is over that will all carry on. Perhaps you can go on a march through London about them.

Bit rich to use that to defend Iran using similar thinking they have no business in Yemen, Libanon, Gaza, Iraq etc. But yet they have been fighting proxy wars for years.

Of course we must protect the right to pick and chooseand even ignore other countries' injustices based on whatever suits us best at the time...as individuals or as a country.

if you ask 10 person's you get 10 different answers about what's right and whats wrong. agree the world is not ideal but it would be a worse place if the likes off Iran and Putin could do what they want.

 

[C R]

The war will end soon

 

[icowden]

The war will end soon
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It is just getting impossible to know what is satire and what is reality.

 

[C R]

It is just getting impossible to know what is satire and what is reality.

The Onion front pages of five years ago are news front pages now.

 

[icowden]

The Onion front pages of five years ago are news front pages now.

Will no-one think of the satirists?

Famously Tom Lehrer said in 1973 that "political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.". I wonder what he'd make of today?

 

[briantrumpet]

Will no-one think of the satirists?

Famously Tom Lehrer said in 1973 that "political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.". I wonder what he'd make of today?

Probably similarly bemused as Fukuyama since writing "The End of History" as a serious suggestion.

 

[briantrumpet]

Seems like a fair summary.

 

[Psamathe]

Seems like a fair summary.

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Whilst I certainly don't support the Iranian regime, I can see their point in that they could negotiate a treaty with the US and 2 days later Trūmp has a late night session on "Truth social" and tears it up.

 

[Pblakeney]

Whilst I certainly don't support the Iranian regime, I can see their point in that they could negotiate a treaty with the US and 2 days later Trūmp has a late night session on "Truth social" and tears it up.

I think the Iranians themselves have said that Donnie does not negotiate in good faith so there is no point.
Rest of the world is coming to that conclusion too.

 

[All uphill]

I think the Iranians themselves have said that Donnie does not negotiate in good faith so there is no point.
Rest of the world is coming to that conclusion too.

So what happens then?

Everyone can see he is totally unreliable, so how does Iran, EU and UK deal with that?

Maybe delay is the best option.

 

[Dorset Boy]

So what happens then?

Everyone can see he is totally unreliable, so how does Iran, EU and UK deal with that?

Maybe delay is the best option.

The global economy cannot afford for Hormuz to be closed for the next 2.5 years though

 

[All uphill]

The global economy cannot afford for Hormuz to be closed for the next 2.5 years though

Agreed.

The only resolution I can see is for the US to go home while Iran makes some vague promises.

 

[Pblakeney]

So what happens then?

Everyone can see he is totally unreliable, so how does Iran, EU and UK deal with that?

Maybe delay is the best option.

The EU and UK are negligible when it comes to Iran.
Iran's leaders are happy to sit tight and take the hit until Donnie gets bored or the US public rise up. Normal negotiations are futile with Donnie.

 

[C R]

Agreed.

The only resolution I can see is for the US to go home while Iran makes some vague promises.

Israel will scupper that, though, until Netanyahu and the likes are out of the picture.