How wealthy?

[First Aspect]

Yup. There's no context on how many offences one might expect from a similarly sized cohort from the UK population as a whole.

It is basically "Mexicans eat family pets" level racism from our resident Magatroll.

 

[Stevo 666]

You shouldn't be surprised because fascism is creeping into British society. I have CXRAndy on ignore. But let's say, and just for an example, I release his latest posts for scrutiny and apply my legally trained brain - you want to see what happens? I can practically guarantee fascism included. Here goes ...

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This is an example of ''temporal compression''. Therefore the headline claim is false.

While I haven't fact checked every case, there is no doubt that some are true. However, the dates between arrest, charging, and conviction show temporal compression. In one case, the sentence was 14 months, and the perpetrator was released since he has spent that amount of time on remand.

Therefore the time frame is not 12 days, and probably more like 24 months.

The next signs are cohort fallacy. Asylum seekers and migrants are mixed here - these are different cohorts. Neither is it clear that all are ''channel migrants''.

Next sign - ''arrested''. Being arrested of a crime is not proof of guilt, neither is being charged. The only relevant status is ''convicted''.

Next sign is numerical misinterpretation. Migrant populations invariably add to population numbers. If the population growth comes from native population growth, then crimes stats grow proportionately.

The claim therefore is false, intends stigmatisation, and intends panic. These are features of fascism.

I guess I'd better put my pack of Top Trumps away then...

 

[icowden]

I figured by 80, I probably won't need as much.

The other factor is whether you get to 80 of course. The older you get the less likely it is that you get there. Current average life expectancy is 78.8 years for men and 82.8 for women. You might of course live to over 100. It's all a gamble. My nan milked the teachers final pension scheme for all it was worth (103 years old).

Addendum: On the flip side, my mum has just reached 80 and been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. You just don't know which way the dice will roll...

 

[Ian H]

The other factor is whether you get to 80 of course. The older you get the less likely it is that you get there.

Not so. It can actually go up as you get older. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula.../articles/lifeexpectancycalculator/2019-06-07

 

[All uphill]

The other factor is whether you get to 80 of course. The older you get the less likely it is that you get there. Current average life expectancy is 78.8 years for men and 82.8 for women. You might of course live to over 100. It's all a gamble. My nan milked the teachers final pension scheme for all it was worth (103 years old).

Addendum: On the flip side, my mum has just reached 80 and been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. You just don't know which way the dice will roll...

Add in the cycling factor!

Average life expectancy plus 20 years*

*I used the DJT method to get that figure, I made it up

 

[icowden]

Not so. It can actually go up as you get older.

True dat.

However, as my dad died at the age of 44, I've always been of the "live now" persuasion rather than the "save it for later".

 

[BoldonLad]

The other factor is whether you get to 80 of course. The older you get the less likely it is that you get there. Current average life expectancy is 78.8 years for men and 82.8 for women. You might of course live to over 100. It's all a gamble. My nan milked the teachers final pension scheme for all it was worth (103 years old).

Addendum: On the flip side, my mum has just reached 80 and been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. You just don't know which way the dice will roll...

Please, do not post a credible source... says the man who is approximately two months away from 78 😂

 

[spen666]

The other factor is whether you get to 80 of course. The older you get the less likely it is that you get there. Current average life expectancy is 78.8 years for men and 82.8 for women. You might of course live to over 100. It's all a gamble. My nan milked the teachers final pension scheme for all it was worth (103 years old).

Addendum: On the flip side, my mum has just reached 80 and been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. You just don't know which way the dice will roll...

Are you sure on that.

 

[Mr Celine]

Please, do not post a credible source... says the man who is approximately two months away from 78 😂

Don't worry, he's quoting life expectancy at birth.

I don't think you were born yesterday

ONS says your average life expectancy is now 88 with a 1 in 10 chance of reaching 96.

 

[BoldonLad]

Don't worry, he's quoting life expectancy at birth.

I don't think you were born yesterday

ONS says your average life expectancy is now 88 with a 1 in 10 chance of reaching 96.

Phew!, but, too late!, I maxed out all the credit cards 😂

 

[laurentian]

The other factor is whether you get to 80 of course. The older you get the less likely it is that you get there. Current average life expectancy is 78.8 years for men and 82.8 for women. You might of course live to over 100. It's all a gamble. My nan milked the teachers final pension scheme for all it was worth (103 years old).

Addendum: On the flip side, my mum has just reached 80 and been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. You just don't know which way the dice will roll...

Oh sure!! - my point being that, should I be blessed enough to get to 80, my state and private pensions will be more than adequate and therefore I won't need anything else