Make (alleged) Rapist great again?

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

So time to discus whats wrong with alleged Connor Mcgregor and convicted Donald Trump rapist running for president(an in case of Trump even getting elected?
https://www.tmz.com/2025/03/20/conor-mcgregor-presidential-campaign/
and
https://news.sky.com/story/why-cono...-of-becoming-irelands-next-president-13331498

We used to have some standards it now seems to go down to route of who insults the best, despite the chances for Mcgregor rated low as per sky article.
We see that on all levels to be honest voting left or right does it even matter? Here in the uk it seems labour and Tories it's exactly the same both tools to make the rich richer and the poor poorer, all whilst bashing minority's as fraudsters because poeple without legs can't protest that easily. Instead of real problem solving.

And in the EU yeah it doesn't really matter, countries are defacto eu-provinces anyway, no real say in decisions, no real political changes. same old same old, different puppets same story. But also rich people getting richer poor people getting poorer... and it has been this what for at least the past 20 years.

The obvious solution would be change the housing market ponzi scheme but that would hurt all those ''investors'' the most.

Why oh why would poeple vote for those who claim they can do different, even tough it is clearly an lie, really hard to tell right?

 

[HMS_Dave]

Im told if we put them all on ignore and stop discussing them, they will go away. Im willing to give it a go.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Im told if we put them all on ignore and stop discussing them, they will go away. Im willing to give it a go.

Isn't that what has lead to this situation in the first place along with politicians caring more about their bank account than anything else?
I mean if we do nothing, groceries still are gonna get more expensize, fuel is, houses are and the rich are still gonna get richer.

And then someone on facebook knowns how to talk to those who work 12hrs a day for sh!t pay and we call them crazy conspiracy theorist for the fact they might be more susceptible for those types..

Yeah ignoring is key right?

 

[All uphill]

The rich getting richer, poor getting poorer. I agree it stinks.

Anyone who thinks a right wing politician (including Starmer) will improve that is dreaming.

Where is the sensible centre left party we need?

 

[monkers]

The rich getting richer, poor getting poorer. I agree it stinks.

Anyone who thinks a right wing politician (including Starmer) will improve that is dreaming.

Where is the sensible centre left party we need?

If you mean UK wide party and typically to be found on the ballot sheet wherever you live, then the party with the best fit I will say is the Green Party being nearest of the parties to the vertical axis. Unlike other parties they occupy a fixed position as policy is written by and passed by party members. Party leader can not change it.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

If you mean UK wide party and typically to be found on the ballot sheet wherever you live, then the party with the best fit I will say is the Green Party being nearest of the parties to the vertical axis. Unlike other parties they occupy a fixed position as policy is written by and passed by party members. Party leader can not change it.

That graph is nice and all but the real point is if we lack capable persons, it doesn't really matter. Tories had a form of ''pay for access'' labour has the same, they might call it different, the ''sponsors'' might have a different name but bottom line it come down to buying influence instead of idea and laws being introduces as how they ever where intended.
The best example is the housing market, the worlds biggest ponzi scheme again the poorest are hit the hardest and the richest only get richer from it. Would the government step in, it would immediately turn that around. the government has several ways from communistic-style seizing of properties to offer normal prices housing to the most easiest way, basically turning back what Tatcher at the time got rid off and get the government involved in housing again set build target and priorities planning permission for social/goverment funded housing above the 301 mega flat developments. If government reduces demand for housing(because enough new houses have been build) those are the first ones to stay empty anyway.

 

[monkers]

That graph is nice and all but the real point is if we lack capable persons, it doesn't really matter. Tories had a form of ''pay for access'' labour has the same, they might call it different, the ''sponsors'' might have a different name but bottom line it come down to buying influence instead of idea and laws being introduces as how they ever where intended.
The best example is the housing market, the worlds biggest ponzi scheme again the poorest are hit the hardest and the richest only get richer from it. Would the government step in, it would immediately turn that around. the government has several ways from communistic-style seizing of properties to offer normal prices housing to the most easiest way, basically turning back what Tatcher at the time got rid off and get the government involved in housing again set build target and priorities planning permission for social/goverment funded housing above the 301 mega flat developments. If government reduces demand for housing(because enough new houses have been build) those are the first ones to stay empty anyway.

What we need is a government formed of people immune to the demands of lobbyists, fascists and the corrupt. In other words, people with a backbone to challenge the corrupt system will do me, even if they make errors or take longer doing it than they claimed.

This country needs a massive turn around; if the politicians from the big political parties won't do it, the next step is for the people to elect a party that are genuinely different and not chasing the popular vote by following the pack rightwards.

 

[BoldonLad]

What we need is a government formed of people immune to the demands of lobbyists, fascists and the corrupt. In other words, people with a backbone to challenge the corrupt system will do me, even if they make errors or take longer doing it than they claimed.

This country needs a massive turn around; if the politicians from the big political parties won't do it, the next step is for the people to elect a party that are genuinely different and not chasing the popular vote by following the pack rightwards.

good luck with that one

 

[monkers]

good luck with that one

The politics of fear shall prevail- we both know.

 

[BoldonLad]

The politics of fear shall prevail- we both know.

I think the Politics of ignorance and selfishness will top even fear

 

[matticus]

We see that on all levels to be honest voting left or right does it even matter? Here in the uk it seems labour and Tories it's exactly the same both tools to make the rich richer and the poor poorer

whats wrong with alleged Connor Mcgregor and convicted Donald Trump rapist running for president?

Thankyou Dutchie for illustrating something important:

By taking the "politicans are all as bad as each-other" line, you promote the idea that the likes of Connor McGregor might be a pretty good guy to run the country.

Well done!

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

I think the Politics of ignorance and selfishness will top even fear

At some point it started with fear, which in turn blind sighted the lobby groups sneaking in and a few decades later we have what we have now, politics and the powerless feeling leads to no one really care, can't change it anyway.
And if something happens that result in mass revolt the authorities suddenly can act. like we have seen past summer. (while those protest where for all the wrong reasons, the impression the government acted much more active harder and effective as similar protest with smaller groups can't be denied. Similar as today nearly 4 years later they published that during black live matter protest they put on less forces on the street despite knowing it was an violent mob.)

Thankyou Dutchie for illustrating something important:

By taking the "politicans are all as bad as each-other" line, you promote the idea that the likes of Connor McGregor might be a pretty good guy to run the country.

Well done!

Creative reading, first off i named Labour and the Tories, Conner McGregor is none of them, secondly i said we lack capable persons, in some strange twist you think i would classify a rapist as a capable person? and/or good guy? How does that work? I mean i never even wrote ''pretty good guy'' that came out of your keyboard.
Strange universe you live in, but no in this universe i don't count Conner McGregor as a ''pretty good guy'' nor did my post imply that. I just analyzed the current political parties and voiced my opinion than an graph station party's direction on the political spectrum are quite pointless if said parties are ran in a way that does not reflect that political direction but rather the direction their sponsors/lobby wants them to go.

I also reject to insertion that i would have said or implied ''all politicians are as bad as each-other'' yes i can't currently name one good politician but that doesn't mean you can twist my words into an ''all'' when i didn't say that. I do believe and hope there are some good politicians out there maybe somewhere...