Gender again. Sorry!

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icowden

Pharaoh
Lots of things that are rightly separated by certain characteristics are open to abuse, from parking in disabled spaces to getting alcohol when you're under 18.
Both of those are offences. For the first you will get a PCN. For the second the shop will be heavily fined.

These are both legal requirements. There is no legal requirement to be a biological woman to use a woman's toilet, nor has there ever been. Further there is no way to police it. Your obsession is pointless.
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
There is a legal requirement under the Equality Act that if a service has been designated as single sex it means biological sex. If a service provider does not provide a single sex space/service they may be liable to a claim for indirect discrimination against whichever characteristic is being discriminated against.
See the case Bob linked to earlier re Scottish school toilets. The judge said as much.

Service providers will either have to comply with the law or face claims. See also Sunderland minster where a canon decided the building wouldn't be following the law on single sex facilities and the trustees have decided differently.

https://anglican.ink/2026/06/03/sunderland-minster-trustees-repudiate-canons-trans-sign/
 

icowden

Pharaoh
There is a legal requirement under the Equality Act that if a service has been designated as single sex it means biological sex. If a service provider does not provide a single sex space/service they may be liable to a claim for indirect discrimination against whichever characteristic is being discriminated against.
See the case Bob linked to earlier re Scottish school toilets. The judge said as much.
It doesn't specify that they have to enforce them and install the security scans and checks that you want.

Service providers will either have to comply with the law or face claims.
It's perfectly legal to have a unisex toilet. They exist all over the place.
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
If they don't they will be open to legal claims of indirect discrimination so it's in their interest to provide them. Yes, it's legal to have mixed sex toilets - sungle occupancy disabled toilets are in effect mixed sex. What you can't do is call a service single sex and then let the opposite sex use it, or in fact just certain ones of the opposite sex. It then becomes a mixed sex service, which in some circumstances might be considered discrimatory against women, eg ok if it was a shoe fitting area but not ok if it was a communal changing room.

If a restaurant is non smoking, you can't let just certain people smoke. It stops being non smoking altogether.

It's increasingly clear to me that you don't grasp the basic issues.
 

monkers

Shaman
If they don't they will be open to legal claims of indirect discrimination so it's in their interest to provide them. Yes, it's legal to have mixed sex toilets - sungle occupancy disabled toilets are in effect mixed sex. What you can't do is call a service single sex and then let the opposite sex use it, or in fact just certain ones of the opposite sex. It then becomes a mixed sex service, which in some circumstances might be considered discrimatory against women, eg ok if it was a shoe fitting area but not ok if it was a communal changing room.

If a restaurant is non smoking, you can't let just certain people smoke. It stops being non smoking altogether.

It's increasingly clear to me that you don't grasp the basic issues.

Nothing is a mix if contains only one thing. This is the extent to which the language has been switched to accommodate the gender critical ideology.

If a private toilet can be used by anybody, then it is a universal toilet, such is the case with facilities for disabled folk. A locked door establishes the boundary for privacy (not dignity which has a different legal meaning).

What you are calling for is single sex hand washing facilities because these tend to be communal - which does not mean ''mixed sex'' either, but multiple user.

The Scottish schools case is frankly ridiculous as it comes from a 5 year old girl (who I agree has rights) was objecting to the toilet arrangements because she doesn't like the noise. She says some boys are noisy. Isn't it true that some girls are noisy? What would you say to a five year old boy who doesn't like the boy's loo because it is too noisy?

So what will be next, women's facilities must have accoustic treatments?
 
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classic33

Missen
There's nothing stopping them doing this though.
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However for an argument that isn't about toilets there's a fair bit of time spent on the subject.
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
Single user toilets where there is an enclosed unit, eg common disabled/accessible toilets, are not the same as mixed sex communal facilities. If that toilet in the image was the only provision for females but males had their own larger facilities it would likely be indirect discrimination against women and open to legal action. (That image might well be a women's toilet that has a cubicle with wheelchair access ie for disabled women though).
 

bobzmyunkle

Veteran
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classic33

Missen
Single user toilets where there is an enclosed unit, eg common disabled/accessible toilets, are not the same as mixed sex communal facilities. If that toilet in the image was the only provision for females but males had their own larger facilities it would likely be indirect discrimination against women and open to legal action. (That image might well be a women's toilet that has a cubicle with wheelchair access ie for disabled women though).
Look above the people further down the platform. The men's toilets sign is clearly visible.

Unisex disabled toilets, as nearly every disabled toilets are. They prove unisex toilets can and do work.
 
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