I have posted the numbers a few times. I'm not scraping this whole very long thread to count the number of times for your amusement.
I see those kind of numbers never as amusement. I also wasn't asking for those numbers again. just reffering to a discusion slithly above my post at the time of posting.
I haven't been in dispute with Aurora about rape data. The scale of the problem is truly horrific.
agreed
There is the wild claim that women with a GRC are making violent and sexual attacks against women. I just point out that there is no evidence of it being at the hands of a woman with a GRC in a public loo, or indeed anywhere else - because there isn't any such evidence. And yes I have put carefully considered numbers from available data against this - often.
I'm not nessacrly looking for that data either it's a small group and the people who commit rapes are in general also a small group, so that those numbers aren;t there isnt that strange.
However i wouldn't be surprised if an serial rapist would abuse this GRC laws now or in the future it's my point therules should account for this, and make some restrictions, similarly to poeple being banned from being a company director of they mess up to much, poeple not being able to be a police officer if they have a criminal record and so on. If we can established someone transgender or not can be a risk close to woman, we should be able to protect other against those individuals.
Your 'feels' don't trump the data.
I didn;t say that either.
Do you have evidence that women with a GRC are steroid abusers?
No, but that isn't what i said either, i said that steroids are sadly becoming more normalized so my point is if you look at women being more voilent one of the key things causing that is steroid abuse,(with men too but some men are peanuts from the start because of natural higher testorone) however despite the science in most cases not being very well informed in trans issues specific considering research requires large numbers, and trans people as a whole are not a large enough group as of yet.(which in turn then also has to be divided off course)
But i'm fairly certain trans people are not imume for steroid abuse and would have similar side effects, but it was not the main point.
You think we should abolish the police force for the same reason?
If you think it would make things safer it might but in actuality i don't think it would. My point is also not to just abolish everything just add more check and balances and other ways to prevent certain induviduals from abusing the rules.
The state never pretends that it can prevent crime. It can define crimes, it can creates laws and deterrents. Most crimes against women happen in their own homes, how do anticipate the state can prevent that? Preventative policing is certainly useful, but it never eliminates crime.
We do have a lot of preventive measures in daily life, if everyone drivers with 80mph everywhere it doesn't mean we have an accident on every corner, but it does increase the risk by a lot, so we have speed limits, traffic signs, traffic rules, traffic lights pedastrains paths, *some* cycle paths, roundabout etc. all aimed at making sure as much people can get on with whatever they are doing saferly and as unhindered as possible. but it does not prevent an accident.
So that also what i mean, completely preventing would be great but most likely not possible and if possible it would be by having a police officer in every house stepping in if it goes wrong, i don't known about you but i don't think that is an price worth paying. it doesn't mean we can't take other less provacy infringing steps to prevent certain times of crimes or certain typesof criminals from re-offending.
That is nothing like what I said.
i didn't say you said that.
You need to be careful about what you mean by self-Id. I comment on this until you clarify.
I mean to rules laws we have that allow and individual to self ID in his her gender or i believe gender identity is the correct wording in this case.
I think their should be measures preventing rapist from self-id-ing as a other gender either to ''get closer to woman'' or to have their court filings lift them under their womans name so they are harder to find if they get out.
The common argument against this is ''it's not that easy'' or ''there is no evidence of anyone doing this'' whilst there are some instances where you could at least cast reasonable doubt on one's reasoning behind choices, in my view that shouldn't really matter it should be about preventing and thus evidence of abuse off or not should not be relevant.
I'm interested to hear how you will pre-emptively prevent the crime of rape. Will you be castrating all men to do this or having women sewn up, or possibly both?
or only virtual sex like in Terminator 1 orv2 i think(with Sandra Bullock) but as described above that is an misunderstanding i'm not looking to prevent everything, but there is something in between you known? if you provide more education and if we create and more effective police force rape case will decline, just as all other crime, if the police is more effective and therefore the risk/reward ratio declines, the crime itself will decline too.
