Manchester synagogue attack
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bobzmyunkle
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That's not what I meant, sorry. English is not my first language. What I was trying to say is that the approach of treating these situations as requiring split second decisions leads to poor decision making as seen in the de Menezes case. Training should focus on analysing the situation not on making quick decisions.
Evil_Breakfast
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceq2e9x19g8o -
"Defend Our Juries member, Zoe Cohen, said as a Jewish person she is "grieving after the appalling synagogue attack" but also "grieving for the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who have been murdered, displaced and starved in Gaza".
She added: "I think it's possible for us to be compassionate and open our hearts to victims of multiple atrocities at one time."
In the statement, released during the protest, she said "if today's vigil had been cancelled we would have been letting terror win".
Police make 355 arrests at pro-Palestinian protest in London
"Defend Our Juries member, Zoe Cohen, said as a Jewish person she is "grieving after the appalling synagogue attack" but also "grieving for the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who have been murdered, displaced and starved in Gaza".
She added: "I think it's possible for us to be compassionate and open our hearts to victims of multiple atrocities at one time."
In the statement, released during the protest, she said "if today's vigil had been cancelled we would have been letting terror win".
Evil_Breakfast
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Current tally now @ 442. Questions, now, need to be asked of the Met and of Shabana Mahmood; following her "un-british" comments.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
I fail to understand how a group that protests for action to be taken to support a free Palestine state can be considered a terrorist group by a government that has just recognised Palestine as a state.
Pblakeney
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Evil_Breakfast
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craigwend
Do you Remember
I wonder if the same guidance to the legislation will be used for 'repeated' hotel demon strations..
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c24rmdngrrjo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c24rmdngrrjo
dutchguylivingintheuk
Veteran
Yes they can.
Psamathe
Veteran
My worry about suggestions that the Palestine protests should not go ahead after the Manchester attacks is further conflating worldwide Judaism with the actions of the Israeli Government. To me no religious person could ever countenance what is being done to innocent civilians in Gaza. But it's being done by a Government not a group of believers of a particular religion who are not even citizens under the Israeli Government.
It's something Netanyahu has been doing for years when any criticism of Israeli Government actions is immediately condemned as anti-semitic causing what is a widespread religion to be seen as part of the Israeli Government actions.
I suspect if this conflation is part of the cause of these problems and merging the issue of protests in support of Palestine with grieving following the synagogue attack just mixes it all together even more.
dutchguylivingintheuk
Veteran
What kind of logic is that? Following that you cannot accept Islam/muslim as a peacefull group/religion just because some poeple from that same religion want to kill each and everyone who does'nt believe or follows islamic gudelines exactly as they think it should be.
Evil_Breakfast
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shulamit_Aloni
Shulamit Aloni, former member of the Knesset; was of the same mind.
"In a 2002 interview on Democracy Now!, American journalist Amy Goodman asked Aloni, "Often when there is dissent expressed in the United States against policies of the Israeli government, people here are called anti-Semitic. What is your response to that?" Aloni responded, opining that, "It is a trick we use. When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust. When in this country [the USA] people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic... some Israelis attitude is “Israel, my country right or wrong,” identification. And they are not ready to hear criticism."[12]"