Nicola Sturgeon Arrested

[AndyRM]

Can we change the thread title to "Peter Murrell pleads guilty"? Or is it too late for that?

 

[Dorset Boy]

I hope those of you who keep their finances separate have put in place Lasting Powers of Attorney for Property & Financial Affairs (or what ever the Scottish equivalent is), or you might have a rather large problem down the line.

 

[Pblakeney]

I hope those of you who keep their finances separate have put in place Lasting Powers of Attorney for Property & Financial Affairs (or what ever the Scottish equivalent is), or you might have a rather large problem down the line.

Obviously.
Well, obvious to us.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Yes, but there seems to be a view that somehow she was treated harshly. She wasn't.

I must have missed the comments about her being treated harshly. By whom? Criticism from some people who believe she must have known is not being treated harshly, just life in politics.

 

[spen666]

Seriously?

Even the most ardent hater of the SNP can't possibly believe that.

There were reasonable grounds to suspect she had committed an offence ( at the time of arrest- not now) and therefore the grounds for an arrest were made out. This is normal practice in a criminal investigation.
Many people are arrested as part of investigations and subsequently not charged. That doesn't mean they have been treated harshly

 

[First Aspect]

Seriously?

Even the most ardent hater of the SNP can't possibly believe that.

It's not the only reason she resigned. There was an exceptional hubris in that couple having such an openly problematic level of influence over the party and the country. They were advised there was a potential conflict of interest, knew best and exerted a lot of leverage using it.

The end result was a proportionate level of scrutiny when it all came to light.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

 

[First Aspect]

I must have missed the comments about her being treated harshly. By whom? Criticism from some people who believe she must have known is not being treated harshly, just life in politics.

See above

 

[First Aspect]

I hope those of you who keep their finances separate have put in place Lasting Powers of Attorney for Property & Financial Affairs (or what ever the Scottish equivalent is), or you might have a rather large problem down the line.

In Scottish law nothing goes automatically to your spouse. I had to make sure my brother wasn't the beneficiary, should I get hit by a car.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

It's interesting how other people deal with it. I earn about 3 1/2 - 4 times what my wife does, so I pay most of the bills and we end up with roughly the same amount left over. But I know how much she earns and vice versa, and it's understood that everyone £ we have is "ours".

My wife and I are very similar to you. As you suggest though it really does vary. I think there is certainly a generational aspect (perhaps largely due to men of an older generation often being the larger or sole earner). My parents and all their friends very much fall into the category of everything shared and money being seen as "ours", in spite of any gap in earnings. My friends and the generations below, seem to be very much split finances, which I often take to be a natural aspect of both earning their own money and those earnings often being at a similar level.

 

[AuroraSaab]

It's hard to believe she wouldn't have asked where the money for an £80k Jag came from.
Even if our finances were totally separate I'd ask my OH about a £3k coffee machine.
I guess if you were to be very charitable you could plausibly say they were leading separate lives by that point and took no interest in the other's spending.

 

[AndyRM]

It's not the only reason she resigned. There was an exceptional hubris in that couple having such an openly problematic level of influence over the party and the country. They were advised there was a potential conflict of interest, knew best and exerted a lot of leverage using it.

The end result was a proportionate level of scrutiny when it all came to light.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Did you type that with a straight face?

An investigation, a proportionate level of scrutiny, has shown up f*ck all on her part.

She's died by the sword through no actual fault of her own.

But aye, she's the one to blame here.

Sake.

The criminal is Peter Murrell.

 

[Psamathe]

There were reasonable grounds to suspect she had committed an offence ( at the time of arrest- not now) and therefore the grounds for an arrest were made out. This is normal practice in a criminal investigation.

If the individual states they wish to fully cooperate with all enquiries why would the Police need to arrest? Individual can voluntarily surrender their passport, undertake not to travel eg outside a given locality, etc. provide all requested documents, evidence for investigation, etc.

When much younger I always thought arrest was used when the individual needs to be apprehended and held. Maybe I've always had the idea wrong but in recent years appears to me Police arrest first then ask questions later.

 

[Rusty Nails]

See above

As I said that’s normal for politics, not being treated any more harshly than other politicians would have been.
It’s tough but, at the top, politicians must be prepared to have doubts cast. It was right that the authorities questioned her about any knowledge of or complicity in her husband’s actions because of her role in the SNP.

 

[First Aspect]

My wife and I are very similar to you. As you suggest though it really does vary. I think there is certainly a generational aspect (perhaps largely due to men of an older generation often being the larger or sole earner). My parents and all their friends very much fall into the category of everything shared and money being seen as "ours", in spite of any gap in earnings. My friends and the generations below, seem to be very much split finances, which I often take to be a natural aspect of both earning their own money and those earnings often being at a similar level.

I would have thought earning about the same was even more reason to integrate finances.

Particularly once there are joint assets like a house, or where there are children involved, it seems harder to keep things separate, tbh.

 

[Rusty Nails]

It's hard to believe she wouldn't have asked where the money for an £80k Jag came from.
Even if our finances were totally separate I'd ask my OH about a £3k coffee machine.
I guess if you were to be very charitable you could plausibly say they were leading separate lives by that point and took no interest in the other's spending.

I honestly believe that. In the main, people will believe what they choose to believe based on their political sympathies, or antipathies, with the politician concerned.