bobzmyunkle
Veteran
Come on @Stevo 666, it's a forum. If you're misunderstood, it's your role to help us all understand. Give it a go, you might find it character building.
Nicola Sturgeon Arrested
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Come on @Stevo 666, it's a forum. If you're misunderstood, it's your role to help us all understand. Give it a go, you might find it character building.
Stevo 666
Guru
If you mean the referendum, English people didn't have a say. If we had done, Scotland might be independent by now.
First Aspect
Legendary Member
I think a lot of people would still take about £180 per head.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
She was interviewed by the Police. Was that interview part of the enquiry?
spen666
Über Member
It most certainly is not contrary to her saying she will co-operate. with enquiries.
spen666
Über Member
won't help you pleading things that are irrelevant in Scottish law
First Aspect
Legendary Member
She gave a full written response a few weeks later. And was following solicitor advice at the time. The whole interview thing is not really the issue, other than the press has latched on to it.
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
I was thinking more in terms of the entirety of the British political and media ecosystem, rather than some weird little random who styles themself as The Antichrist and posts right-wing bile in the arse-end of an obscure cycling forum.
But It's good that you & I agree about one thing, I guess.
Stevo 666
Guru
I was thinking more in terms of the entirety of the British political and media ecosystem, rather than some weird little random who styles themself as The Antichrist and posts right-wing bile in the arse-end of an obscure cycling forum.
But It's good that you & I agree about one thing, I guess.
Good to see you still go for the insults as it shows you have no argument to make. But what's new?
Although to be fair you are doing a good job of promoting Scottish independence. If enough English people read your bile filled little rants they'll be only too glad to get shot of Scotland
After Murrell's arrest she said she would cooperate fully with the police. I took this to mean police enquiry. I do actually support the right to remain silent, but I just ask Sturgeon's staunch supporters how she squares the circle of saying she would "Fully cooperate with the Police" but then exercised her right to refuse to answer questions during a 7 hour interview.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
"Staunch" is an interesting choice of words there, particularly in the context of Scottish politics.
Anyway, it still doesn't seem like we've reached a point of acceptance that Murrell is the c*ntbag here, rather than Sturgeon.
Maybe. Just maybe, it'll click.
Until then, I recommend watching Neil Marshall's superb Mad Max/Escape from New York homage "Doomsday" and fiddle yourselves blind over a UK without Scotland.
Anyway, it still doesn't seem like we've reached a point of acceptance that Murrell is the c*ntbag here, rather than Sturgeon.
Maybe. Just maybe, it'll click.
Until then, I recommend watching Neil Marshall's superb Mad Max/Escape from New York homage "Doomsday" and fiddle yourselves blind over a UK without Scotland.
Dorset Boy
Senior Member
Anyway, it still doesn't seem like we've reached a point of acceptance that Murrell is the c*ntbag here, rather than Sturgeon.
Oh it's been obvious that we all recognise Murrell was a criminal ad should be banged up - you seem to have missed that agreement in your misty eyed defence of Sturgeon.
Others find it more than a little surprising that Sturgeon didn't notice anything, that she was more than a little unco-operative to the point of actively blocking the SNP committee set up to sort out the SNP's finances.
Oh it's been obvious that we all recognise Murrell was a criminal ad should be banged up - you seem to have missed that agreement in your misty eyed defence of Sturgeon.
Others find it more than a little surprising that Sturgeon didn't notice anything, that she was more than a little unco-operative to the point of actively blocking the SNP committee set up to sort out the SNP's finances.
spen666
Über Member
So much wrong here
1. If it was a 7 hour interview, then that would be oppresive and as such would not be admissible in evidence
2. You claim to support the right of silence- yet you are trying to make some wierd contradictory point that apparently someone you seem to have a problem with should not be entitled to the right of silence
3. She did co-operate with the enquiry. She attended the police interviews etc.
4. Everyone in the law in the UK has the right of silence and the right against self- incrimination. Notice that word RIGHT - its not an option of silence or a chance of silence, it is a fundamental human right [ exception being a S2 CJA 1987 interview conducted by the SFO]
I have no time for Nicola Sturgeon at all and personally am glad to see the back of her in politics, but she has same rights as every other person and to exercise those rights is not refusing to co-operate
First Aspect
Legendary Member
Sturgeon had lost popularity because of her politics. She fostered a secretive and aggressive approach. "Shouty" is how I would characterise the SNP. The walls were closing in regarding the gender identity issue, because she positioned everyone who did not agree with everything she said as trans hating, which was deeply unhelpful even for the trans community. When it started to unravel as a few male prisoners decided to declare themselves women to get a nicer place to live, she dug in whilst simultaneously personally intervening to make exceptions. This is not how to govern. That's dictating.
Murrell is an inconsequential nob. Absolutely.
But it is perfectly reasonable to independently dislike a blowhard divisive politician on her own lack of merit. And the one thing YOU can't countenance is that regardless of any of the above, she was astonishingly ignorant of the embezzlement issue in her own party and own household. This is not to suggest any nefarious activities as some are doing, but rather more like Joanna Cherry, questioning her fundamental competence.
I see Sturgeon as an extremely strong communicator, which hides fundamental issues. This was, after all, the person who ad-libed the solution to ventilation during COVID as being chopping off the bottom of doors.
As youay know, I like my politicians to be smart. This baldrickism really troubled me, as do a lot of the simplistic SNP policies of the time, which can be summarised by the word "free".
First Aspect
Legendary Member
Agree. But the outrage now is in part because before it all came to light she actively suppressed investigations into SNP finances.
It's fair, given that money was flowing from the SNP into her household, to at least question why she tried to stifle enquiries as recently as 2021.
