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AndyRM

Elder Goth
Mmm, there's no particular affinity between people in the NE and Scotland as far as I can tell. It's about as close to Scotland Birmingham is to London.

Why did you leave, out of interest? I assume you could "hack it", so there must have been another reason.

Income tax maybe?

Since you asked, I could easily have hacked it in the various parts of Scotland where I grew up (Saltcoats, Dundonald, Troon, Dunoon, Glasgow and Edinburgh).

I live in North Shields because I went to Uni here.

I don't dodge any of my tax. Call that naive if you'd like to, but it isn't.

You'd be surprised about the affinity between the North East and Scotland.
 

First Aspect

Legendary Member
Since you asked, I could easily have hacked it in the various parts of Scotland where I grew up (Saltcoats, Dundonald, Troon, Dunoon, Glasgow and Edinburgh).

I live in North Shields because I went to Uni here.

I don't dodge any of my tax. Call that naive if you'd like to, but it isn't.

You'd be surprised about the affinity between the North East and Scotland.
How do you justify having a strong opinion on Scottish politics and independence if you don't live and pay taxes there?
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
How do you justify having a strong opinion on Scottish politics and independence if you don't live and pay taxes there?

Because I'm Scottish, my sister and her husband, aunts and grandmother live there?

My parents will be moving back shortly too. As I plan to too.

How do you justify your passion for a country you don't live in or pay taxes for?
 

First Aspect

Legendary Member
Because I'm Scottish, my sister and her husband, aunts and grandmother live there?

My parents will be moving back shortly too. As I plan to too.

How do you justify your passion for a country you don't live in or pay taxes for?
I think your first answer is really the answer.
 

First Aspect

Legendary Member
Aaaah, no, you've mistaken me for a Scot who hates the English.

I don't.

I'd call you a "doss c*nt" but I fear your misinterpretation may upset you.
No, but you aren't exactly tolerant of the view of an English person who lived there for a long time, who like you doesn't live there but who, like you, intends to move back.

I've almost certainly lived there longer as an adult than you have, and quite possibly longer overall if you left to go to uni. I've almost certainly paid more tax to Holyrood than you ever will.

The main difference seems to be you are Scottish, and I am not. In fact in my experience I would be less likely to be ever considered Scottish than a non British immigrant.

But you are Scottish. So you know better than anyone who is not.

It must be genetic memory.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
No, but you aren't exactly tolerant of the view of an English person who lived there for a long time, who like you doesn't live there but who, like you, intends to move back.

I've almost certainly lived there longer as an adult than you have, and quite possibly longer overall if you left to go to uni. I've almost certainly paid more tax to Holyrood than you ever will.

The main difference seems to be you are Scottish, and I am not. In fact in my experience I would be less likely to be ever considered Scottish than a non British immigrant.

But you are Scottish. So you know better than anyone who is not.

It must be genetic memory.

You've played quite a card here.

And you've chucked a lot of accusations.

Square go then, c*nt.

How old are you and what have you contributed to Scotland?
 

icowden

Pharaoh
Though I was amused one time when I asked a pupil if he thought he had an accent, and he said "no". He's the only pupil I've ever had with that sort of clipped military delivery typical of people in the British armed forces. Which wasn't surprising, as his father was a captain or something in the armed forces.
tl;dr - it's really hard to asses one's own accent.

I suffer from a condition called "other people's accents". I didn't acquire an accent from my parents other than a tendence to copy my dad's flat "a" sounds for Bath (to rhyme with lath or math) etc. I also went to Drama school where I didn't have to do very much to achieve an RP accent compared to many of my peers.

However, if I am talking to someone, I will, over a short period of time, start to acquire aspects of their accent. My family get very annoyed with this when I'm on holiday - unless we are in France where I *sound* pretty much native, which can come in quite handy. My grammar isn't great - which gives the game away.

Fun anecdote:
Coming back from a mini break to Disney last year, we saw an exhausted Alex Brooker pushing his wife - who at the time was in a wheelchair (I think due to an injury). As we got towards the departure gate he was trying to get through a door, so I popped over and held it for him. As he came through one of the staff thanked me in French, so I just replied "ca fait rien Monsieur" (effectively - don't worry about it or no problem). Alex then also tried to thank me in French and was somewhat bemused when I replied - "oh - it's OK I'm English mate - have a good flight!"
 

First Aspect

Legendary Member
You've played quite a card here.

And you've chucked a lot of accusations.

Square go then, c*nt.

How old are you and what have you contributed to Scotland?
I left when I was 50, and I was paying about £70k a year income tax for several years. I bought three houses while I was up there and helped to justify a team of about 10 people employed there, who I still work with.

You do realise that all of the abuse is illustrating exactly my point?
 

icowden

Pharaoh
I left when I was 50, and I was paying about £70k a year income tax for several years. I bought three houses while I was up there and helped to justify a team of about 10 people employed there, who I still work with.
You do realise that all of the abuse is illustrating exactly my point?

Is it that if you don't have a claim to a Clan Tartan, then you'll always be a sassenach?
 
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