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First Aspect

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The issue with the other forum is that some very conservative people called Derek, who used cycle clips and pedal reflectors, so diligently police anything political it's basically impossible to use humour.
 

Bazzer

Senior Member
In other news, I must admit I quite liked having the OMeB (old man's e-bike) for the ride out to see friends this morning... it was a proper vicious headwind, and if I'd not been looking after my heart with the OMeB, I'd have probably done a much shorter ride in a different direction.

I've got at least a couple of rides along old unpaved tracks I want to do on it before the end of the week, joining up between roads I know like the back of my hand. So while I hate the weight of the thing (I think it's about half my bodyweight) and miss the 'whoosh' of the road bike, it's does a sensible job well. I can see why they are so popular.
A next door neighbour has recently bought one. In the space of around 6 weeks, he has gone from not having ridden a bike in 50 years to 20 mile rides. Yes it's a new toy and I don't know how much of his ride is on battery power, but I doubt he would have had the motivation to get out without the battery assistance.
 
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briantrumpet

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A next door neighbour has recently bought one. In the space of around 6 weeks, he has gone from not having ridden a bike in 50 years to 20 mile rides. Yes it's a new toy and I don't know how much of his ride is on battery power, but I doubt he would have had the motivation to get out without the battery assistance.

I never criticise others for using them... they're bikes. It's not the same visceral thrill for me, but it's still a bike, and the pleasure is different.
 

Bazzer

Senior Member
I never criticise others for using them... they're bikes. It's not the same visceral thrill for me, but it's still a bike, and the pleasure is different.
It wasn't a criticism of either you or my neighbour. It's good to see my neighbour getting out and more cyclists out and about should benefit most people.
I'm trying to persuade him to up his mileage for the odd time I feel like being sociable on a ride. ^_^
 
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briantrumpet

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It wasn't a criticism of either you or my neighbour. It's good to see my neighbour getting out and more cyclists out and about should benefit most people.
I'm trying to persuade him to up his mileage for the odd time I feel like being sociable on a ride. ^_^

Ha, I was agreeing with you! most of these people on e-bikes wouldn't be on bikes at all otherwise.
 

Psamathe

Senior Member
Ha, I was agreeing with you! most of these people on e-bikes wouldn't be on bikes at all otherwise.
I don't know about the UK as my cycling is on quiet roads (few cyclists and few cars). But in Netherlands some e-bike riders can be really dangerous . On more than one occasion I've nearly had bad accidents with e-bikes as some (often older) riders are not great at controlling them, can overshoot on stopping at "give way"/stop lines, etc.

Ian
 

The Crofted Crest

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Old fogies on ebikes in NL are a real problem. They can't control the things. They are why the bike accident figures have recently sky rocketed. And they are so scared of falling and breaking a hip, they've all decided, after 40/ 50 years of accident free cycling, to put on a plastic helmet.
 

Ian H

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Old fogies on ebikes in NL are a real problem. They can't control the things. They are why the bike accident figures have recently sky rocketed. And they are so scared of falling and breaking a hip, they've all decided, after 40/ 50 years of accident free cycling, to put on a plastic helmet.

What are the Nederland rules for ebikes?
 

Psamathe

Senior Member
What are the Nederland rules for ebikes?
And how well do dutch cyclists actually know their Highway Code (or how many have poor appreciation). I note it as my cycle happens to be such that under the dutch Highway Code I can cycle on the road where there is a mandatory cycle path (ie I can chose). Very rare that I do chose the road but have before and have been "told off" by another cyclist (until I explained their Highway Code to him).

Ian
 

The Crofted Crest

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What are the Nederland rules for ebikes?

Buy one, ride it like any other bike!

Fatbikes are a menace and are ridden dangerously, and usually by young kids thinking they are James Dean on speed. They are the cause of many accidents. They are so badly assembled that they often fall to bits in a minor accident (think, front wheel against a kerb stone).

There are also things called speedelecs that can easily do 20 mph. You need to be insured, taxed and registered but they can go on the road.

Worst of all are young kids on scooters who try to pass as close as possible. A twitch of the elbow is all that it would need to add them to the road accident fatalities.
 

The Crofted Crest

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And how well do dutch cyclists actually know their Highway Code (or how many have poor appreciation). I note it as my cycle happens to be such that under the dutch Highway Code I can cycle on the road where there is a mandatory cycle path (ie I can chose). Very rare that I do chose the road but have before and have been "told off" by another cyclist (until I explained their Highway Code to him).

Ian

Errm, no. Bike paths/lanes are compulsory, or as you say, mandatory. See: https://verkeersregels.vvn.nl/situa...oet je,je het onverplichte fietspad gebruiken.
 
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