Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

[secretsqirrel]

It's ironic that the UK is nominally Christian, but most people are just 'meh', and everyone seems slightly embarrassed by things like bishops being in the HoL, whereas America is specifically not religious in its constitution, but the Trumpists are trying to make it a specifically Christian country.

I look forward to a new Christian USA….

“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God"

 

[AuroraSaab]

I don't see an issue with people saying they are of a particular faith but non practising. People often follow the beliefs but not the rituals for many reasons.

The rise of prosperity theology in the US sheds some light on the move away from more traditional Christian values in the US, in my opinion anyway.

 

[First Aspect]

Did you fall asleep in history lessons?

The King is the literal head of the Church of England, a branch of Christianity. Christian holidays are widely celebrated and days off to celebrate are enshrined in law. Britain is literally a Christian Country as it is enshrined in our monarchy and laws.

I presume that what you intended to mean was the people of Britain are no longer majority Christian - which is true, as we have a broadly secular society.

No, there is (or there is supposed to be) a separation of church and state. Formally the UK is secular.

 

[icowden]

No, there is (or there is supposed to be) a separation of church and state. Formally the UK is secular.

Can you make up your mind which geographical body you are talking about?
Northern Ireland is definitely not secular.

Also, you have provided no evidence to support your statement. I can point you towards countless documents that illustrate that the Monarch is the Supreme governor of the Church of England, that Christian Bishops sit in the House of Lords, that we have documented bank holidays to celebrate Christian holy days and that we have laws governing Sunday Trading which are specifically linked to Christianity and Sunday workship.

The United Kingdom is formally a Christian Country. The defence rests.

 

[icowden]

It's ironic that the UK is nominally Christian, but most people are just 'meh', and everyone seems slightly embarrassed by things like bishops being in the HoL, whereas America is specifically not religious in its constitution, but the Trumpists are trying to make it a specifically Christian country.

I always think that's one of the nice things about the Church of England. In my experience it's always been a sort of "join in if you want to", casual branch of Christianity. It is changing in some areas with pushes towards Alpha Courses (indoctrination) and more of a push towards giving donations. But certainly in the Church that I'm covering it's very much about community support for those that need it, and generally the ethos is to be welcoming to all. It is a high Anglican church but certainly one of the more liberal ones as our Rector is both gay and married.

I seem to recall someone funny saying something along the lines of that the nice thing about the Church of England is that believing in anything is optional...

 

[All uphill]

Can you make up your mind which geographical body you are talking about?
Northern Ireland is definitely not secular.

Also, you have provided no evidence to support your statement. I can point you towards countless documents that illustrate that the Monarch is the Supreme governor of the Church of England, that Christian Bishops sit in the House of Lords, that we have documented bank holidays to celebrate Christian holy days and that we have laws governing Sunday Trading which are specifically linked to Christianity and Sunday workship.

The United Kingdom is formally a Christian Country. The defence rests.

Well done, you have neatly summarised some of the things that are wrong with this country, imo.

 

[First Aspect]

Can you make up your mind which geographical body you are talking about?
Northern Ireland is definitely not secular.

Also, you have provided no evidence to support your statement. I can point you towards countless documents that illustrate that the Monarch is the Supreme governor of the Church of England, that Christian Bishops sit in the House of Lords, that we have documented bank holidays to celebrate Christian holy days and that we have laws governing Sunday Trading which are specifically linked to Christianity and Sunday workship.

The United Kingdom is formally a Christian Country. The defence rests.

Turns out I am wrrrrr... I am waroooonnnnn..... Wr.....wr.

No I can't say it.

 

[briantrumpet]

Turns out I am wrrrrr... I am waroooonnnnn..... Wr.....wr.

No I can't say it.

Blame your researcher for feeding you faulty information.

Or blame AI.

Or the SNP?

 

[icowden]

Well done, you have neatly summarised some of the things that are wrong with this country, imo.

Blimey - you don't like bank holidays?

 

[All uphill]

Blimey - you don't like bank holidays?

I'm retired; I hate it when the wage slaves and their brats are monopolising all my favourite places.

 

[BoldonLad]

I always think that's one of the nice things about the Church of England. In my experience it's always been a sort of "join in if you want to", casual branch of Christianity. It is changing in some areas with pushes towards Alpha Courses (indoctrination) and more of a push towards giving donations. But certainly in the Church that I'm covering it's very much about community support for those that need it, and generally the ethos is to be welcoming to all. It is a high Anglican church but certainly one of the more liberal ones as our Rector is both gay and married.

I seem to recall someone funny saying something along the lines of that the nice thing about the Church of England is that believing in anything is optional...

You seem to have missed out the Child Abuse activities, I suppose they ARE "join in if you want to", except for the victims that is.

 

[CXRAndy]

From Henry VIII and almost uninterrupted from Elizabeth I the supreme governor of the church of England is the king or Queen

 

[icowden]

You seem to have missed out the Child Abuse activities, I suppose they ARE "join in if you want to", except for the victims that is.

I didn't list as yhey aren't really a key christian activity, more an illegal biproduct.

 

[BoldonLad]

I didn't list as yhey aren't really a key christian activity, more an illegal biproduct.

Is that so?, odd that they should be present in many of the Christian sects.

 

[Ian H]

No, there is (or there is supposed to be) a separation of church and state. Formally the UK is secular.

"I suppose I'm CofE because there must be something out there"