Viveza criolla

[matticus]

I came across this in a discussion about the attitude of the Argentina football* team and their fans, most recently displayed at the World Cup Finals*. This was the link posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viveza_criolla

Reading that wiki page, it struck me that I see a heck of a lot of similar attitudes displayed by some Brits. And that's not a good thing!

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup

 

[Pblakeney]

I came across this in a discussion about the attitude of the Argentina football* team and their fans, most recently displayed at the World Cup Finals*. This was the link posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viveza_criolla

Reading that wiki page, it struck me that I see a heck of a lot of similar attitudes displayed by some Brits. And that's not a good thing!

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup

Gotta admit that it does seem to be spreading worldwide.
Simplified by the "me, me, me" way of thinking.

 

[BoldonLad]

I came across this in a discussion about the attitude of the Argentina football* team and their fans, most recently displayed at the World Cup Finals*. This was the link posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viveza_criolla

Reading that wiki page, it struck me that I see a heck of a lot of similar attitudes displayed by some Brits. And that's not a good thing!

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup

Yes, it is a long long time ago now, but, my old headmaster used to lecture us pupils on the importance of our "responsibilities", as well as our "rights".

He was a dinosaur then (1962/63), dont think he would be allowed any where near a school now (if he were alive, which I very much doubt)

 

[AuroraSaab]

Sounds like a stop on the way to a complete breakdown of society. Complete lack of trust in government or community; every man for himself.

I thought the rioting of Morrocco fans in London might have been mentioned on here.
By comparison I found the way Norway fans gathering outside the Royal palace in Oslo for a final 'row' in the early hours of the morning, after they exited the World Cup, quite moving. No riots, didn't appear to be drunk or belligerent, no police required.

 

[matticus]

I thought the rioting of Morrocco fans in London might have been mentioned on here.

In all honesty I had no idea it happened!
(I'm not even aware of Moroccans in the Uk in any number - but from what you say there are certainly some in That London).

By comparison I found the way Norway fans gathering outside the Royal palace in Oslo for a final 'row' in the early hours of the morning, after they exited the World Cup, quite moving. No riots, didn't appear to be drunk or belligerent, no police required.

Nice!

 

[Ian H]

Yes, it is a long long time ago now, but, my old headmaster used to lecture us pupils on the importance of our "responsibilities", as well as our "rights".

He was a dinosaur then (1962/63), dont think he would be allowed any where near a school now (if he were alive, which I very much doubt)

There are two ways of parsing that. One is that the lower orders should know their place and not try to assert their 'rights'.

 

[BoldonLad]

There are two ways of parsing that. One is that the lower orders should know their place and not try to assert their 'rights'.

Too late to ask him which one he meant, he will be long dead, it was at least 63 years ago, and he was 50+ then, I would estimate.

Although, at the time, I probably didn't think so, he (the Headmaster) was all for us "lower orders" getting on. There was a school rule which said pupils could not commute to school by motorcycle. At age 16, I had saved money from my paper round and bought a motorcycle. For the only time in my childhood I can recall, my Father took my side against "the school". He went to see the Headmaster, explained my endeavours and questioned why I should not be able to enjoy the fruits of my hard work. The Headmaster reached a compromise, I was not allowed to take the motorcycle onto the school premises, but, I was allowed to ride to school on it. I had to park it outside the School.