Young Persons & Alleged Serious Criminal Offences

[Cirrus]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clypg68e2neo

Two of the boys' mothers burst into tears as Judge Nicholas Rowland told the attackers "none of you need to go to prison today".

Explaining his sentence, the judge said: "I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily and understand the effects of their behaviour and support their reintegration into society."

fark knows what the girls (victims) and their parents must think of this sentence.

 

[Beebo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clypg68e2neo

Two of the boys' mothers burst into tears as Judge Nicholas Rowland told the attackers "none of you need to go to prison today".

Explaining his sentence, the judge said: "I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily and understand the effects of their behaviour and support their reintegration into society."

fark knows what the girls (victims) and their parents must think of this sentence.

I posted about this elsewhere.
The sentence is far too lenient.
You can’t film the gang rape two girls on separate occasions and not get a custodial sentence.

I have a 15 years old son. If he, or any of his friends were caught up in this sort of thing I would drive them to youth offenders centre myself.

 

[spen666]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clypg68e2neo

Two of the boys' mothers burst into tears as Judge Nicholas Rowland told the attackers "none of you need to go to prison today".

Explaining his sentence, the judge said: "I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily and understand the effects of their behaviour and support their reintegration into society."

fark knows what the girls (victims) and their parents must think of this sentence.

Its always dangerous to comment on sentencing without knowing all the facts and without reading in full the sentencing remarks, but the sentences in this case appear on the face of it to be surpising - especially given there were seperate attacks on seperate victims on seperate dayd

 

[Cirrus]

Its always dangerous to comment on sentencing without knowing all the facts and without reading in full the sentencing remarks, but the sentences in this case appear on the face of it to be surpising - especially given there were seperate attacks on seperate victims on seperate dayd

And pre planned, malice a forethought. At least one of the girls was lured to a meeting where she was gang raped.

“She had travelled to meet one of the boys for the first time, after he had begun a "relationship" with her on social media platform Snapchat.

But then two other boys appeared”

 

[AuroraSaab]

If that report is a straightforward account of the events, those are incredibly lenient sentences. Beyond belief really. The judge's main concern was not to criminalise the offenders. To which I would say WTF? Why the f not? We aren't talking about shoplifting. Awful. Why would victims even bother reporting rapes in similar circumstances when they see this 'justice'.

 

[Beebo]

The government have confirmed that the sentences are under review after receiving multiple requests for an appeal.

 

[spen666]

The government have confirmed that the sentences are under review after receiving multiple requests for an appeal.

Not disputing what you say, but not seen it in media. Have you got a link to story?

 

[Beebo]

Not disputing what you say, but not seen it in media. Have you got a link to story?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy2x7wxjego

 

[spen666]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy2x7wxjego

Thanks, was just coming back here to say I'd found it.

i'm intrigued to see the full sentencing remarks, if they are published as it seems a very lenient sentence and I struggle to reconcile it with the sentencing guidelines even allowing for their ages.

Explaining his sentencing decision on Thursday, Judge Nicholas Rowland said he would avoid "criminalising" the "very young" boys.

They are criminals by their findings of guilt in this case, so Judge is not avoiding criminalising them.

They are boys, but not "very young boys", 15 years old usually is more than old enough to know right from wrong

I can't help but think there is something more to this than appears on the face of the story, if not it is a seriously wrong sentence

It seems a