secretsqirrel
spiteful class warrior
From what I’ve seen they all seem to appeal to nostalgia, back to sometime that didn’t really exist. Like old Enid Blyton book covers.
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From what I’ve seen they all seem to appeal to nostalgia, back to sometime that didn’t really exist. Like old Enid Blyton book covers.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
I'm not sure why you thought that I thought that 'advocating for AI' was a good thing then. But pretending that people aren't going to use it, or ignoring what it can do isn't going to make it go away. This is a tiny forum where we talk about 'stuff' that's happening out there, not somewhere to make sales pitches in any case (not that I was).
I'm not disputing your second point. It's a great pity, and reflects how few people value the skills involved (hence my comments about people on committees). You've obviously not been party to the discussions I've had with PR/design people I know defending their work against the comments/criticisms of People With No Idea.
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
That's certainly been one of the vomit-inducing themes.
AuroraSaab
Epic Member
I think digital photography opened up the hobby to a wider group of people because there were no consumables (film) to constantly buy. That's a good thing surely.
With design there was already access to cheap/free design software before AI. The difference was you still needed to have/learn design skills or be prepared to put the hours in. Now it's quick and cheap to make an AI poster and a lot of companies will be happy with what they get from it. It's inevitably going to be ruinous for creative industries, especially graphic design. Eventually it will make It's effects felt in music and literature. Some people will always want the real deal but others are going to be happy with, say, a playlist of AI generated trumpet music as opposed to original compositions played by a real person.
With design there was already access to cheap/free design software before AI. The difference was you still needed to have/learn design skills or be prepared to put the hours in. Now it's quick and cheap to make an AI poster and a lot of companies will be happy with what they get from it. It's inevitably going to be ruinous for creative industries, especially graphic design. Eventually it will make It's effects felt in music and literature. Some people will always want the real deal but others are going to be happy with, say, a playlist of AI generated trumpet music as opposed to original compositions played by a real person.
Psamathe
Squire
One aspect to AI where people are making a lot of assumptions is how much it will cost to use.
AI consumes unbelievable resources (causing immense damage). Those resources are expensive and at some AI companies will need to be looking to start charging at least in line with their costs, probably more.
At the moment we (western world) is living off the addictive freebies we are being given to get us dependent so when Tech Bros look at they bank statements and want positive and bigger numbers we'll be completely dependent, completely addicted and have no choice but to pay what they charge (and no real competition as they'll all want big $$$).
Quite a few years back it has been (fairly widely) reported that when Walmart moved into a new area where existing local stores would compete, they'd open their store and their might and backing allowed them to sell below cost until local competition who couldn't match pricing went bust. Only then did Walmart go back to selling at profitable pricing but now without the local competitors.
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
It's the way all businesses work if they have world domination ambitions, whether that's private equity trying to dominate a sector with monopolistic-type status (think children's care homes, vets, or the NHS in the UK), general businesses (the big grocery chains, for example), or Google, Amazon, Apple, etc. The way to big profits is to eliminate meaningful competition.
In the AI/LLM business, we've already seen the costs of coding via them go up astronomically (habitual business users seeing all their pre-bought 'tokens' be used up in one day rather than the expected month/three months), meanwhile the number of human coders and people studying computer science plummet.
I'm sure the same AI companies are working out how they can charge casual users once they've decimated the graphic design industry.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
I've f*cked up. And I apologise. Sorry Brian, mea culpa.
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
No worries. You care about what you do for a living and what impact fucking AI is having on it.
Ian H
Pharaoh
Fúcking AI? Who gives a toss.
farfromtheland
Regular AND Goofy
A person or group can make good art, AI maybe, but a committee takes the biscuit.
It's made a dent. I don't believe other people will be any more happy with playlist culture than I. Like thinking, making things is its own reward.
And where is the provenance? Art happens in response to other art.
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farfromtheland
Regular AND Goofy
Would you stick naive-style AI pics on your fridge over your child's drawings?
monkers
Pharaoh
Oh I think it's worse than that. AI is set to ruin many industries and increase the unemployment problems across the board.
Is it not true that designers have been using software packages to design posters anyway. On one occasion I wanted a poster for a local project I just used Microsoft Word which has had poster making capability since 1997.
The example was a poster for a local event - a Spring Fair. I remember as a primary school kid, there were competitions hosted in school to design a poster for these events. This was community engagement encouraging creativity. These are incremental losses.
Be honest, when was you ever paid a meaningful amount of money to design a poster for a local event?
AndyRM
Elder Goth
My hourly rate is £30.
I last got paid that in February this year for two hours.
Most of my work I do for free.
Ian H
Pharaoh
...Extraordinary correspondence between Epstein and Bach – now a prominent AI theorist – revealed claims about innate racial and gender differences, proposals for genetic engineering, authoritarian rule and the evolutionary “utility” of mass death.
[Nafeez Ahmed - Byline Times] You'll have to search for the full article, which is from December 2025 and not free.
[Nafeez Ahmed - Byline Times] You'll have to search for the full article, which is from December 2025 and not free.
