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AndyRM

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Just £5 including a drink!!

I'd go if I lived in Lintz..

It's a canny cricket club to be fair. Got my career best score of 83 not out and took 3 wickets.
 
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Also a fail in that it didn't label the fictional bars as 'illustrative'.

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...also needs a Y-Axis definition. 1%, 10% 100%?

Given the lack of any data whatsoever, it's more a question of whether this qualifies as a graph in the first place. It's a bit like a 10-year-old putting on a toy stethoscope and calling themself a doctor, though in that case, at least the 10yo knows they aren't a doctor.
 
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I'd have to admit that the teacher's request as also daft and pointless (and the kind of request that's been generated by AI). Even so...

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If I were that parent, I think I'd have replied with something like

1) She's special *because* she's our daughter
2) That's it.
3) n/a
 
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PurplePenguin

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I'd have to admit that the teacher's request as also daft and pointless (and the kind of request that's been generated by AI). Even so...

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If I were that parent, I think I'd have replied with something like

1) She's special *because* she's our daughter
2) That's it.
3) n/a

Your response is not much of a conversation starter for a 10 year old kid in class. I think the AI answer is better.
 
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Your response is not much of a conversation starter for a 10 year old kid in class. I think the AI answer is better.

I think I'd be very subversive and talk with my fictional daughter about why I gave that answer (and if she'd be happy with it). I'd hope that by the age of 10 my daughter had worked out my sense of humour and pleasure in being a bit awkward.

That AI answer is vapid, as the opposite "My daughter isn't empathetic, isn't creative, and doesn't like animals" wouldn't be an answer any parent would give. Well, I suppose I might, if she were in on the joke.
 
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PurplePenguin

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I think I'd be very subversive and talk with my fictional daughter about why I gave that answer (and if she'd be happy with it). I'd hope that by the age of 10 my daughter had worked out my sense of humour and pleasure in being a bit awkward.

That AI answer is vapid, as the opposite "My daughter isn't empathetic, isn't creative, and doesn't like animals" wouldn't be an answer any parent would give. Well, I suppose I might, if she were in on the joke.

I'm not sure she would want to present her dad's sense of humour in class. She would have only just got over the preposition gag.

I don't think any responses to the question would be desirable when taken as opposites.

What I find interesting about this is that AI seems to have grasped the idea: vapid responses that can be used in class. In contrast, you haven't.
 
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I'm not sure she would want to present her dad's sense of humour in class. She would have only just got over the preposition gag.

I don't think any responses to the question would be desirable when taken as opposites.

What I find interesting about this is that AI seems to have grasped the idea: vapid responses that can be used in class. In contrast, you haven't.

Of course vapid responses can be used in class, but I hope my fictional daughter would have an even worse/better sense of humour than me by that age, and a dislike of vapidity. Obviously I'm never going to find out now.

Anyway, I certainly wouldn't ask AI to summarise her, as I'd rather discuss the ideas with her, because, as you know, I like playing with brains.
 

PurplePenguin

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Of course vapid responses can be used in class, but I hope my fictional daughter would have an even worse/better sense of humour than me by that age, and a dislike of vapidity. Obviously I'm never going to find out now.

Anyway, I certainly wouldn't ask AI to summarise her, as I'd rather discuss the ideas with her, because, as you know, I like playing with brains.

I think the theory of raising children differs a bit from the reality of it.

Try to picture this. You've just worked a full day. You frantically rushed everything at work and left before most of your colleagues, just to get out in time to collect your kids. Lateness would have cost £1/min. Having achieved that objective, you get home. It's 6pm. Kids are hungry and arguing. You choose to solve the hunger problem as a priority, so you balance cooking (super healthy organic meal, of course) whilst trying to stop world war 3. Then you remember the kids have PE tomorrow and no clean clothes, so you get some washing on. After having got some food on the table, cleaned up, hung the clothes, checked your emails, got the kids to do their 20 mins of reading a day, run a bath, worked out how to survive tomorrow, sat down for the first time at 9pm, your 10 year old daughter announces there's this exciting discussion at school tomorrow, all she needs to know is her three finest skills. Of course, some parents will magic up a free 30 mins to explore and play with their brains - others will just think what three things will solve this problem, keep their daughter happy and let her participate at school. Then they can move on to the next problem that needs solving.
 
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I think the theory of raising children differs a bit from the reality of it.

Try to picture this. You've just worked a full day. You frantically rushed everything at work and left before most of your colleagues, just to get out in time to collect your kids. Lateness would have cost £1/min. Having achieved that objective, you get home. It's 6pm. Kids are hungry and arguing. You choose to solve the hunger problem as a priority, so you balance cooking (super healthy organic meal, of course) whilst trying to stop world war 3. Then you remember the kids have PE tomorrow and no clean clothes, so you get some washing on. After having got some food on the table, cleaned up, hung the clothes, checked your emails, got the kids to do their 20 mins of reading a day, run a bath, worked out how to survive tomorrow, sat down for the first time at 9pm, your 10 year old daughter announces there's this exciting discussion at school tomorrow, all she needs to know is her three finest skills. Of course, some parents will magic up a free 30 mins to explore and play with their brains - others will just think what three things will solve this problem, keep their daughter happy and let her participate at school. Then they can move on to the next problem that needs solving.

OK re all that, but I'd still not use AI to come up with something so generic/vapid. I could do that all by myself. By the time I'd pressed the AI buttons, (or while I was having a shït or a shower if that's the only thinking time I've got), I think I'd manage something. But then, I know our approaches to AI are probably at opposite ends of the spectrum.
 
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Just to amuse myself, I burned down a few trees for this, for my fictional daughter (I didn't give any clues, other than she's 10). I'm just trying to work out which one I'd like. Or maybe I should get some off-the-peg triplets so I can have all three to make my life heaven. I might have forgotten to tell Gemini that she swears a lot, just like her dad, and occasionally burns ants with a magnifying glass when it's sunny (ditto, when he was 10).

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To give the teacher a well-rounded picture of your daughter, it helps to highlight three distinct qualities—such as her heart/character, her mind/creativity, and her approach to the world.
Here are a few combinations depending on her personality:

Option 1: Warm, Curious, and Resilient​

  1. Her deep empathy: "She is incredibly quick to notice when a friend or classmate needs support or a kind word."
  2. Her relentless curiosity: "She loves asking 'why' and diving headfirst into learning about how things work."
  3. Her positive resilience: "She approaches challenges with a smile and isn't afraid to try again when something is difficult."

Option 2: Creative, Observation-Minded, and Inclusive​

  1. Her vivid imagination: "She brings so much creativity and original thinking to everything she makes, writes, or draws."
  2. Her thoughtful powers of observation: "She is remarkably perceptive and notices small details in the world around her that others often miss."
  3. Her inclusive spirit: "She makes sure no one feels left out and goes out of her way to make people feel welcome."

Option 3: Energetic, Humor-Filled, and Helpful​

  1. Her joyful sense of humor: "She has a bright, infectious sense of humor that lights up any room she’s in."
  2. Her willingness to help: "She takes pride in being helpful, whether it’s assisting at home or taking on responsibilities in class."
  3. Her enthusiastic focus: "When a subject or activity sparks her interest, her enthusiasm and dedication are inspiring to watch."
Tip for writing it out: You can keep each point to a single short sentence or expand with a brief example (e.g., "Her empathy—she always makes sure her younger cousins feel included during family gatherings").
Which of these traits sound most like her, or is there a specific interest or quirk of hers you'd like to weave in?
 

Rusty Nails

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OK re all that, but I'd still not use AI to come up with something so generic/vapid. I could do that all by myself. By the time I'd pressed the AI buttons, (or while I was having a shït or a shower if that's the only thinking time I've got), I think I'd manage something. But then, I know our approaches to AI are probably at opposite ends of the spectrum.

Re your op about the senior manager/engineer at Yahoo and Google, I think that says more about her limitations and big tech's constant search to reduce the need for humans to tire themselves out by actually thinking things through than it does about AI.

Presumably Mayer would have to have input some ot the things her daughter does and likes for AI to have come up with those suggestions (or is her whole family's history on her AI "Assistant"?) and used her imagination, love and knowledge to arrive at something more personal.

There's something very sad about it.
 
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