America bombs Iran.

[classic33]

FTFY. 😉

Look at who has gained. Certainly not Israel or Iran. America has sold a shedload of weaponry while going for "peace".

And they get to have most of their major hardware tested under combat conditions. Usually against weapons that they'd face in any major conflict. As well as "making certain" that Russia doesn't become a major arms supplier to them.

 

[Ian H]

So, when this doesn't get him a Piecey Prize, who/where will he invade next? Maybe Panama back on the agenda? or Greenland?

And in his hunt for ever fore dramatic reality TV maybe he'll need somewhere more dramatic?

Ian

He could always invade Cuba.

 

[Rusty Nails]

nb not defending gbe Iranian regime, just starting wars need to be legal and justified.

You are such a sweet old-fashioned thing. Don't you know those rules only apply to little countries?

 

[glasgowcyclist]

It appears the Pentagon Defense Intelligence Agency contradicts Trump’s claim that the strike on Iran’s nuclear sites was a ‘spectacular success’, and has assessed that it likely only set back the programme by months.

Trump lying about as well as the Israelis do.

 

[Psamathe]

It appears the Pentagon Defense Intelligence Agency contradicts Trump’s claim that the strike on Iran’s nuclear sites was a ‘spectacular success’, and has assessed that it likely only set back the programme by months.

Trump lying about as well as the Israelis do.

JD Vance sort of talking along the same'ish lines as Pentagon

JD Vance suggests Iran’s uranium stockpile is still intact despite US strikes

Ian

 

[HMS_Dave]

There has been speculation or rumour of Britain restoring its ability to launch Nuclear weapons from Jet aircraft, which is probably where your speculation is drawn from, but there is nothing more on this at all and i very much doubt that in spite of the recent increase in MOD spending that it will ever likely come to be...

As it turns out, armageddon doesn't come cheap

It is no longer speculation. An order for 12 F-35As capable of nuclear weapon payloads are being ordered. Shows i know fück all

 

[Pblakeney]

It appears the Pentagon Defense Intelligence Agency contradicts Trump’s claim that the strike on Iran’s nuclear sites was a ‘spectacular success’, and has assessed that it likely only set back the programme by months.

Trump lying about as well as the Israelis do.

Ah well, that’s a surprise. Not!

 

[Pblakeney]

It is no longer speculation. An order for 12 F-35As capable of nuclear weapon payloads are being ordered. Shows i know fück all

What it does show is that this sh!t is serious.
You’d have thought Trident was enough but apparently not.

 

[Psamathe]

It is no longer speculation. An order for 12 F-35As capable of nuclear weapon payloads are being ordered. Shows i know fück all

What it does show is that this sh!t is serious.
You’d have thought Trident was enough but apparently not.

Reported on R4 (Today program) that these would be under the control of the US. That's presumably the same US that has proved a highly unreliable ally, why regard Article 5 as "depends ..." and everybody is petrified might pull out of NATO whilst becoming an avid Putin supporter.

Ian

 

[HMS_Dave]

Reported on R4 (Today program) that these would be under the control of the US. That's presumably the same US that has proved a highly unreliable ally, why regard Article 5 as "depends ..." and everybody is petrified might pull out of NATO whilst becoming an avid Putin supporter.

Ian

The planes would likely be fully under RAF command as they can also perform long range conventional weapons use. The nuclear weapons are reportedly going to be use of the existing stockpile of US nukes in Europe and would require the US presidents approval before use in any circumstance.

Purely from an operation standpoint, I dont see the point in the UK having this ability under this arrangement.

 

[Xipe Totec]

Maybe Starmer's convinced himself that if he can pretend the F35As will be used to nuke all those Evil Terrorist Refugees as they approach Dover in their half-deflated dinghies, he can finally pry the dribbling Brexit Binburner vote out of Nigel's greasy-fingered clutches.

Makes as much sense as anything else.

 

[Psamathe]

Maybe Starmer's convinced himself that if he can pretend the F35As will be used to nuke all those Evil Terrorist Refugees as they approach Dover in their half-deflated dinghies, he can finally pry the dribbling Brexit Binburner vote out of Nigel's greasy-fingered clutches.

Makes as much sense as anything else.

Nothing from out leaders and politicians makes any sense any more eg We pay an F' load of money because of a potential breach of International Law yet before that cheque has cleared, be are overlooking clear breaches of International Law by a supposedly close ally. One minute it's crucially important (remembering Starmer keeps spouting that he'a a highly qualified lawyer who believes in law) yet moments later it becomes inconvenient so we overlook it.

None of then seem able to grow a pair, stand for anything, just seek the nearest fence to sit on and play in whatever wind is pushing then around at any moment.

Ian

 

[Pross]

And they get to have most of their major hardware tested under combat conditions. Usually against weapons that they'd face in any major conflict. As well as "making certain" that Russia doesn't become a major arms supplier to them.

Shame Trump wouldn't allow the Ukrainians to test them in real-world situations but then I guess they didn't have enough money or offer to replace Stormy Daniels' services.

 

[HMS_Dave]

The RAF F35A nuclear launch option is beginning to make sense to me now. It is looking like the USAF are going to be storing Nuclear Weapons in the UK for the first time in nearly 20 years. You'd think there would be a lot more discussion about this. But even so, By committing the RAF to the F35A launch capability, it gives the UK Gov't reason to store them here in the first place, probably citing all manner of national security guff, when the fact is we already have a NATO lead deterrent, that is already operationally adequate and in near full control of the US President. It's all just political büllshit.

 

[C R]

The RAF F35A nuclear launch option is beginning to make sense to me now. It is looking like the USAF are going to be storing Nuclear Weapons in the UK for the first time in nearly 20 years. You'd think there would be a lot more discussion about this. But even so, By committing the RAF to the F35A launch capability, it gives the UK Gov't reason to store them here in the first place, probably citing all manner of national security guff, when the fact is we already have a NATO lead deterrent, that is already operationally adequate and in near full control of the US President. It's all just political büllshit.

So Starmer providing a fig leaf of respectability to the US, and paying for the privilege. Anything new?