briantrumpet
Timewaster
Here's his MN donation page - dunno if the links are still live.
https://michael-scott-1953-2026.muchloved.com/
Badenoch's (Lack Of) Vision Quest
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Here's his MN donation page - dunno if the links are still live.
https://michael-scott-1953-2026.muchloved.com/
monkers
Shaman
Both Badenoch and Truss are regular attendees at Tufton Street - follow the American money.
monkers
Shaman
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secretsqirrel
spiteful class warrior
Its getting to the stage where the discarded tories will outnumber the Badenoch loyalists. If they band together to create a new tory party, team Badenoch will shrivel and die or be looking for refuge in Reform who are supposedly too woke, or Restore.
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Psamathe
Legendary Member
Also, those discarded might have lost favour with Ms Badenoch but I suspect their track record, etc. means they still have favour of their constituency party and the broader electorate. I suspect in discarding them she is also discarding votes.
secretsqirrel
spiteful class warrior
Yes, she’ll lose either way.
Pross
Guru
Maybe their numbers will meet a critical level where they can regain control of the Party.
monkers
Shaman
These parties continue to make a common mistake. Policies shift wildly under changing leadership, while the troops are required to remain constant and loyal. That works no better than the claims to 'broad church'.
The Tories have life size cardboard cut out figures of Thatcher in their bedrooms with shoes and handbags to match - such is the adulation. Then they spent the decades after she is out to quarrel against the point where she was most forceful - ongoing membership of the EU on her own terms.
Tories have too often been men with abandonment issues after being sent at a young age to boarding schools, where the last thing they learn - by which I mean the thing they not only never learn, but learn the opposite in debating societies - is loyalty to each other. They are boys missing their matrons and nannies. Together these interlock to form a perfect storm.
I don't forecast that they will change, even if Badenoch gets to keep the job a while longer, though she might enjoy nannying the boys club for longer.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2dNEQiHUUo
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
I'm really not sure how we recover from politics being this deceitful, and especially the right wing, thinking that politics is best practised by doing xenophobic stuff on X. It's quite something when even Fraser Nelson has to call them out.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
I suppose it would be mean to spoil Badenoch's right-wing love-in by pointing out that Italy is a full member of the EU.
Pblakeney
Shaman
briantrumpet
Timewaster
Still, it looks like Meloni and Badenoch had a lovely wedding and will be very happy together.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
IIRC, Meloni was all in favour of Italy leaving the EU until she saw the effect Brexit had on the UK. From my limited knowledge of what she's done, she's been vaguely pragmatic despite her obnoxious noises about foreigners, and, of course, Italy is still part of Schengen, with free movement, the customs union, and the Euro. Though of course it's totally impossible to do a counterfactual where Italy had left all of that behind and gone solo, to 'take back control'...
secretsqirrel
spiteful class warrior
Not sure Meloni would make it as a Kemitory. She wants to reform not leave ECHR, and is more pragmatic re netzero.
