Badenoch's vision quest

[monkers]

Huff post has reported to day that Bad Enoch was on GB News earlier.

Kemi Badenoch has been accused of “backwards Islamophobia” after she claimed those responsible for the child grooming gangs scandal came from “peasant backgrounds”.

Carla Denyer was not impressed.

Responding to Badenoch’s comments, Carla Denyer, co-leader of the Green Party, said: “These comments are shockingly offensive and irresponsible.

While Keir Starmer admitted he would not make the mistake of saying what he was thinking.

Meanwhile, prime minister Keir Starmer’s official spokesperson said Badenoch’s comments were “not language that he would use”.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...angs_uk_67865dfde4b0daa73db5e58e?d_id=8604218

 

[BoldonLad]

Could it be because while we pretty much all will accept that the Nazis were fascists, we don't call the Italian and Spanish fascists of the past Nazis. Can fascism have a single definition when we know there have been fascist groups with differing ideologies?

Could be any number of things, I suppose, but, to me, the terms Fascist, Racist, and Ethnic are used so loosely, particularly online, as to become almost meaningless, rather like the terms or words "right wing"; "left wing"; "rich"; "poverty"; "working people"... etc

 

[BoldonLad]

I'm distraught

I know you are above mere mortal thoughts, so, I doubt that 🙂

 

[Ian H]

Could be any number of things, I suppose, but, to me, the terms Fascist, Racist, and Ethnic are used so loosely, particularly online, as to become almost meaningless, rather like the terms or words "right wing"; "left wing"; "rich"; "poverty"; "working people"... etc

Words don't become meaningless just because some people misuse them.

 

[BoldonLad]

Words don't become meaningless just because some people misuse them.

Who decides who is miss-using them and who is not?

 

[multitool]

I know you are above mere mortal thoughts, so, I doubt that 🙂

It was a sarcastic response to what was a pretty pointless post from you.

By all means disagree. But if you do, explain why.

 

[multitool]

Could be any number of things, I suppose, but, to me, the terms Fascist, Racist, and Ethnic are used so loosely, particularly online, as to become almost meaningless, rather like the terms or words "right wing"; "left wing"; "rich"; "poverty"; "working people"... etc

Yeah...let's just use grunts instead.

 

[monkers]

Yeah...let's just use grunts instead.

Do you have teenage daughters perchance?

 

[monkers]

Who decides who is miss-using them and who is not?

If you are concerned about loose usage, first there needs to be tight definitions. You want to have a go at that? I'm being serious rather than snarky. It really isn't easy.

 

[BoldonLad]

If you are concerned about loose usage, first there needs to be tight definitions. You want to have a go at that? I'm being serious rather than snarky. It really isn't easy.

I know it isn’t easy, which was rather my point 😊

 

[Ian H]

I know it isn’t easy, which was rather my point 😊

There are a few people doing the research already. You're not alone.
https://www.oed.com/

 

[multitool]

I know it isn’t easy, which was rather my point 😊

Deep.

 

[Beebo]

Brilliant. She now says the Conservatives approach to Brexit was wrong.
But funnily enough she voted for it again and again and again.

There was never a version of Brexit that would deliver growth and satisfy the leaver’s desire to reclaim sovereignty.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c17edyz11nno

 

[mjr]

Brilliant. She now says the Conservatives approach to Brexit was wrong.
But funnily enough she voted for it again and again and again.

There was never a version of Brexit that would deliver growth and satisfy the leaver’s desire to reclaim sovereignty.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c17edyz11nno

Someone should tell her some hard truths "even when it's difficult to hear"!

 

[Xipe Totec]

Brilliant. She now says the Conservatives approach to Brexit was wrong.
But funnily enough she voted for it again and again and again.

Those were different times! That was a different Tory party & a different Kemi Badenoch. Might even have been the working class one.