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PurplePenguin

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I can't find a coroners report or a summary thereof anywhere. Bit you are at the very least mistaken if you think the only thing that matters is whether or not prompt action might have saved his life.

It probably matters to his family that his last experiences in life were 1. Being stabbed 2. Being falsely accussed 3. Being mistakenly arrested 4. Not being listened to while he was dying?

I think I must have missed the part where the attending officers made any attempt to assess the facts, before proceeding with 2-4.

Apologies it was a pathologist in court. Of course it's not great, but there are many many worse examples of policing. The officer is sceptical about the stabbing, but says they should check - presumably he was looking for a load of blood which is what most people would expect.

The case is being used as race bait by Farage and the like.

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Hampshire police's Deputy Chief Constable Robert France said that within three minutes of interacting with Nowak, the officers were starting to perform CPR.

"This is a complete tragedy and I am sorry that they couldn't save Henry that night and I'm sorry that Henry was handcuffed and arrested as he lost consciousness," he said.

"The pathologist who spoke in court was clear there was nothing officers could have done that day to save Henry.

"His wound was deep and internal, the bleeding extensive but internal."
 
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briantrumpet

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Apologies it was a pathologist in court. Of course it's not great, but there are many many worse examples of policing. The officer is sceptical about the stabbing, but says they should check - presumably he was looking for a load of blood which is what most people would expect.

The case is being used as race bait by Farage and the like.

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Hampshire police's Deputy Chief Constable Robert France said that within three minutes of interacting with Nowak, the officers were starting to perform CPR.

"This is a complete tragedy and I am sorry that they couldn't save Henry that night and I'm sorry that Henry was handcuffed and arrested as he lost consciousness," he said.

"The pathologist who spoke in court was clear there was nothing officers could have done that day to save Henry.

"His wound was deep and internal, the bleeding extensive but internal."

Just saw this account from the judge:

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First Aspect

Legendary Member
Apologies it was a pathologist in court. Of course it's not great, but there are many many worse examples of policing. The officer is sceptical about the stabbing, but says they should check - presumably he was looking for a load of blood which is what most people would expect.

The case is being used as race bait by Farage and the like.

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Hampshire police's Deputy Chief Constable Robert France said that within three minutes of interacting with Nowak, the officers were starting to perform CPR.

"This is a complete tragedy and I am sorry that they couldn't save Henry that night and I'm sorry that Henry was handcuffed and arrested as he lost consciousness," he said.

"The pathologist who spoke in court was clear there was nothing officers could have done that day to save Henry.

"His wound was deep and internal, the bleeding extensive but internal."
You are probably right, but I tend to prefer to let these things play out before coming to a judgement. As someone else has said there might be a bit more to it than we know. Or not.

I think if you are family though, even the slightest hint that a quicker response or some other course of action might have changed the outcome, would be difficult to accept.
 
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briantrumpet

Timewaster
This is about right, from Bluesky, though not sweary enough to get across just how despicable they are.

"Those fucking racists who’ve spent the last fifteen years demonising Poles, complaining about Polski Skleps on high streets, demanding their deportation, now trying to use the murder of Henry Nowak for their own racist purposes can fuck right off."
 

BoldonLad

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I'm assuming there was a huge amount more to the whole case than has been widely reported. It all feels very odd.

In the Police Bodycam footage, shown on national News (BBC & ITV) the incident appears to be in the front garden of a house. I thought, from previous reports, that he was attacked/stabbed in the street?
 

icowden

Pharaoh
In the Police Bodycam footage, shown on national News (BBC & ITV) the incident appears to be in the front garden of a house. I thought, from previous reports, that he was attacked/stabbed in the street?

He was, but he tried to escape into a garden I think.
 

Pblakeney

Squire
I'm confused, but willing to be educated. One guy claims he was punched but is standing and mobile. Another guy is prone claiming to have been stabbed and cannot breathe. The police concentrate on subduing and arresting the prone guy. The female officer did appear to be concerned. I am trying to reconcile the situation but am confused. Please note that I am not pushing any agenda, unlike notable people.
 
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