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midlandsgrimpeur

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Perhaps not relevant to Festivals (where the price of a ticket may dwarf the price of a cheap tent), but, perhaps relevant to those who litter the countryside with their discarded tents, and other camping equipment, is it only the toffs who can afford to do this?, particularly with so many people living in poverty.

I thought toffs only slept in yurts and eco pods, not common or garden tents like the rest of us? 😉
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
I thought toffs only slept in yurts and eco pods, not common or garden tents like the rest of us? 😉

Unless they are trying to display their 'working class" roots perhaps 😊
 

icowden

Shaman
Perhaps not relevant to Festivals (where the price of a ticket may dwarf the price of a cheap tent), but, perhaps relevant to those who litter the countryside with their discarded tents, and other camping equipment, is it only the toffs who can afford to do this?, particularly with so many people living in poverty.
It's the other way round. Manufacturing of tents etc has made them so cheap that it's easier to leave them than dispose of them or put them away. You can buy a 2 man tent for £20 at tesco.
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
It's the other way round. Manufacturing of tents etc has made them so cheap that it's easier to leave them than dispose of them or put them away. You can buy a 2 man tent for £20 at tesco.

Amazingly, I knew that. But, you need more than a tent, and, some of the photographs (including further up this thread) show slightly more "gear" than a £20 tent.

In addition, as I often tell my less than thrifty daughter (no4), "£20 is only an insignificant amount of money, if you either do not need more than £20, and/or you actually have £20".
 
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I did add a question mark ?
Probably just my perception but things seem to have gotten worse since lockdown. Certainly have on my cycle routes.

Re festivals. Yes some good will come of it but I doubt the organisers welcome the hassle and added cost. Lazy. You brought it, you take it away.

Definitely got suddenly worse during COVID, and since there is normally no consequences perhaps it's just seen as more or less acceptable.

The law needs re drafting to allow certain things and make others not allowable,.like camping in lay-bys or within 50m of a road or 200m of a dwelling.

Some people would still carry on of course, but where there are hotspots, locals would have some recourse.
 

icowden

Shaman
In addition, as I often tell my less than thrifty daughter (no4), "£20 is only an insignificant amount of money, if you either do not need more than £20, and/or you actually have £20".
But in the context of music festivals, you've spent more on drink and the tent is probably trashed / muddy anyway and you can't be bothered to clean it.
 

Psamathe

Guru
But in the context of music festivals, you've spent more on drink and the tent is probably trashed / muddy anyway and you can't be bothered to clean it.
Whilst I can appreciate the £20 vs pack, carry, get home, clean, dry, re-pack ... considerations I do think this it's a symptom of our disposable society where production/delivery/etc. incurs pollution costs, waste, etc. probably requiring exploited labour on long hours to hardly survive creating an unsustainable path for us all.
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
But in the context of music festivals, you've spent more on drink and the tent is probably trashed / muddy anyway and you can't be bothered to clean it.



If you read my post, I did say similar, (ie Perhaps not relevant to Festivals), and, as was suggested by another poster, Festivals normally(?) clear up the mess, left by their clients.
 
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But in the context of music festivals, you've spent more on drink and the tent is probably trashed / muddy anyway and you can't be bothered to clean it.

As per my original post, laziness.
If you can carry it in, you can carry it out.
 
And that it is widespread and acceptable practice further drives the disposable society. Use once and discard becomes more "the norm".

Exactly. Things are only going to get worse. An overheard conversation after someone discarded food wrapping on the street.
"Why didn't you just put it in the bin?"
"That's somebody else's job."

That is the mindset behind the right to roam carnage.
 
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