But Where Are You Really From?

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Am I the only here who doesn't have a Times subscription? Are they free to NACA Members of High Regard??

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theclaud

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Anyway, it could go in this thread or the pub one, but I've witnessed at close quarter a 'Where do you really come from?' exchange in my local, in which a then friend of mine was not the victim but the antagonist. I'm ashamed to recount that my friend targeted a young Welshman of South Asian ethnicity - the only person in the room who wasn't white - in order to bait him with a disingenuous and persistent line of questioning about his origins and identity. The young man greeted this assault with much more equanimity than my friend deserved. One of his mates, however, was clearly simmering with rage and looked intent on punching my friend's head in. I successfully discouraged him from doing this, by means of disrupting the direction of the conversation and afterwards apologising on the friend's behalf. And also pleading clemency on account of age (the friend was in his 70s). I should have let the belligerent racist little bastard take a pasting - he resented my intervention and implied criticism of his behaviour anyway, and continued to behave like an arsehole on future occasions. He later stopped speaking to me just because I told him he was a UKIP-voting twat. Racists are very thin-skinned.
 
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Anyway, it could go in this thread or the pub one, but I've witnessed at close quarter a 'Where do you really come from?' exchange in my local, in which a then friend of mine was not the victim but the antagonist. I'm ashamed to recount that my friend targeted a young Welshman of South Asian ethnicity - the only person in the room who wasn't white - in order to bait him with a disingenuous and persistent line of questioning about his origins and identity. The young man greeted this assault with much more equanimity than my friend deserved. One of his mates, however, was clearly simmering with rage and looked intent on punching my friend's head in. I successfully discouraged him from doing this, by means of disrupting the direction of the conversation and afterwards apologising on the friend's behalf. And also pleading clemency on account of age (the friend was in his 70s). I should have let the belligerent racist little bastard take a pasting - he resented my intervention and implied criticism of his behaviour anyway, and continued to behave like an peanut on future occasions. He later stopped speaking to me just because I told him he was a UKIP-voting twat. Racists are very thin-skinned.

Cool story bro!
 
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You're getting the hang of this interweb thingy after all.

You're a good teacher, I picked that one up from you.
 

Ian H

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Anyway, it could go in this thread or the pub one, but I've witnessed at close quarter a 'Where do you really come from?' exchange in my local, in which a then friend of mine was not the victim but the antagonist. I'm ashamed to recount that my friend targeted a young Welshman of South Asian ethnicity - the only person in the room who wasn't white - in order to bait him with a disingenuous and persistent line of questioning about his origins and identity. The young man greeted this assault with much more equanimity than my friend deserved. One of his mates, however, was clearly simmering with rage and looked intent on punching my friend's head in. I successfully discouraged him from doing this, by means of disrupting the direction of the conversation and afterwards apologising on the friend's behalf. And also pleading clemency on account of age (the friend was in his 70s). I should have let the belligerent racist little bastard take a pasting - he resented my intervention and implied criticism of his behaviour anyway, and continued to behave like an arsehole on future occasions. He later stopped speaking to me just because I told him he was a UKIP-voting twat. Racists are very thin-skinned.
I've seen stuff directed at friends - and my late mother's similar line of questioning, fortunately directed at me about an absent friend, rather than at him.
But perhaps, as I reach the three-score-and-ten mark, I'll suddenly turn right-wing & racist (it seems to be a thing).
 

All uphill

Active Member
Another story.

I used to live in a country far away.
This week I had reason to discuss a purchase from a local trader, and from their name I was confident their antecedents came from that faraway country.
With an effort I managed not to start talking to them about my time there, realising that it might not be welcome and was irrelevant to our discussion.
It wasn't easy!
 

glasgowcyclist

Über Member
I’ve recently had a kind of reverse where are you really from moment.

I was at a cafe meeting for Spanish language learners and Spanish native speakers, trying to get my ear tuned in as a beginner. I have a fairly good ear for accents and can usually tell someone’s language of origin, even if their English is excellent or near native.

Our table was a mix although among the fluent speakers I couldn’t tell who was native and who was an advanced second language speaker. James, seated to my left, was a black man and fluently involved in the conversation. When my basic Spanish ran out and he had to answer me in English, I was surprised to hear a solid Belfast accent. Knowing that his skin colour didn’t mean he wasn’t Irish I asked him what part of Ireland he was from. That was when I got my second surprise; he wasn’t Irish and had never been there. So how come his accent was so convincing? All his flatmates are Irish and he is an excellent mimic.

Turns out he’s from Trinidad and he’s been speaking with this Belfast accent so long that it’s become his default.
 
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