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Thought as much, full of sh*t.

I have explained my words; I am sorry that you still don’t understand them.

Humour doesn’t hit the spot for everyone every time and it rarely survives dissection. Neither of us should lose sleep over it.
 
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I have explained my words; I am sorry that you still don’t understand them.

Humour doesn’t hit the spot for everyone every time and it rarely survives dissection. Neither of us should lose sleep over it.

No you haven't.

I assume you either attempted some kind half arsed intellectual reference to something I once said or you've completely cocked up and mixed me up with someone else.

Either way it's only you that knows what you're wittering on about or rest assured someone would have had great pleasure explaining what you mean.
 

icowden

Legendary Member
I assume you either attempted some kind half arsed intellectual reference to something I once said or you've completely cocked up and mixed me up with someone else.
To assume is to make an ass out of both you and me.

The reference is biblical. The parable of the sower. Matthew 13:5
Some fell on stony places, where they had not much earth: and immediately they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:
 

icowden

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What the f**k does this even mean?
Shall I try with smaller words?

You think that the meaning of a word is permanent. On of the missions of the Academy Francaise is to prevent French from becoming anglicised. They stop new words based on English words being added to dictionaries. They do what you want and try to make words and their meaning permanent.
 

Unkraut

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35 pages of white people discussing what they think black people should be called, ending up with 4 pages of 'but women shouldn't have an exclusive word for themselves'.

I don't think I will ever get my head round how feminists of all people are willing, by recognising so-called transwomen as women, to throw actual women under the bus. To enable men to be in control - think sports.

If transwomen really are women, then isn't the prefix trans redundant?

This is not a detour away from the original thread subject inasmuch as racism is a social injustice that should be countered, yet transgenderism is a social injustice that social justice warriors incoherently support. If unfair treatment is wrong, then it is wrong including when allowing men to cheat against women when they cannot successfully compete against men. Who are the real victims here?
 

AuroraSaab

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I don't think I will ever get my head round how feminists of all people are willing, by recognising so-called transwomen as women, to throw actual women under the bus. To enable men to be in control - think sports.

To be fair, most people think they are being kind and inclusive. Most people either aren't aware of, or simply haven't thought through, the consequences of saying 'Men can be women' and what the end point of that might be. Women especially are socialised to be kind. Unfortunately this comes at other women's expense.

I think there's also quite a number of women (and men) who despite being feminists don't really care about stuff like males in women's prisons and refuges because they are middle class and unlikely to end up in either. That might be why it took males in women's sports to get the public's attention - it's a very visible and apparent injustice that people can relate to. Lower class women sharing a jail with a male sex offender? Not so relatable.
 
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Bromptonaut

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Excellent article in today's Times by
Tomiwa Owolade

He gives an interesting Black British perspective on the issue.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/our-obsession-with-race-is-pushing-us-apart-xrcfkmn8h

That's quite interesting in that it makes the point that Black Britons or Americans are pretty much just as foreign in Nigeria as white people.

Afua Hirsch, a Brit of mixed heritage, Ghana and British (with a Jewish grandfather who arrived by Kindertransport), nakes the same point in her book Brit(ish).
 

AuroraSaab

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Funnily enough I came across a Twitter discussion where an African UK resident took slight umbrage at Ngozi Fulani of Sistah Space for 'passing herself off' as African when her parents are from the Carribean. One person's connecting with their roots is another's cultural appropriation perhaps. Kind of brings us back to BAME - lumping everyone together when these communities may see themselves as very separate entities.
 
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