Captain Tom

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Electric_Andy

Electric_Andy

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The £38.9M was all transferred to NHS charities. No crimes have been comitted. The fact that they had a book deal and proffed from it just shows me that they were shrewd and greedy, but not unlawful. I highly doubt anyone bought one of their books and assumed their money would go to charity, or if they did then they should not have assumed. Unless of course it was written somewhere that it would go to the charitable fund, in which case that is wrong
 
spen666

spen666

Well-Known Member
Electric_Andy said:
The £38.9M was all transferred to NHS charities. No crimes have been comitted. The fact that they had a book deal and proffed from it just shows me that they were shrewd and greedy, but not unlawful. I highly doubt anyone bought one of their books and assumed their money would go to charity, or if they did then they should not have assumed. Unless of course it was written somewhere that it would go to the charitable fund, in which case that is wrong
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You are ignoring the fraudulent representation in the book itself and elsewhere that a donation from the proceeds was to be made to the charity. This was a lie and despite the charity commission twice asking them to redeem this, they did not make a donation.

That is potentially a fraudulent misrepresentation contrary to the Fraud Act.

The £38.9m that was raised by Captain Tom all went to Charity and is not relevant for the fraudulent misrepresentation point

The fact the obtained a book deal again is shrewd actions on their part and again not a crime


Their fraudulent misrepresentation that a donation from the proceeds of the book would go to the charity is however a potential criminal act.
 
slowmotion

slowmotion

Active Member
Can somebody tell me (a) how much Captain Tom raised, and (b) how much his family is supposed to have misappropriated? Armed with this knowledge, I will decide whether or not to work myself up into a froth of indignation.
 
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AuroraSaab

Squire
I guess you could call into question the £800k they made from the book sales, seeing as they were allegedly going to the fund not to Capt Tom himself. I had a quick google but couldn't find anything that said the income would go to the fund but I can't remember whether that was how it was promoted. Some of the other stuff looks like opportunism rather than illegality.
 
slowmotion

slowmotion

Active Member
glasgowcyclist said:
The family benefitted from about £1.4M that they failed to pass on to the charity from a book deal.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86qdq67dd5o
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Thank you.
 
winjim

winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Trying to get a toddler to sleep while the neighbours were banging pots and pans right outside the bedroom window was not great fun.
 
slowmotion

slowmotion

Active Member
About £39 million went to the NHS. £1.4 million went in "shrinkage". HMG and its minnions cancelled an NHS contract for IT about ten years ago. They had pissed £10 billion up the wall with very little to show for it.

Indignant frothing over Captain Tom's charity is a tad misdirected n'est-ce pas?
 
All uphill

All uphill

Well-Known Member
slowmotion said:
About £39 million went to the NHS. £1.4 million went in "shrinkage". HMG and its minnions cancelled an NHS contract for IT about ten years ago. They had pissed £10 billion up the wall with very little to show for it.

Indignant frothing over Captain Tom's charity is a tad misdirected n'est-ce pas?
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I'm OK to hack into your bank account as long as I only take a few thousand?
 
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