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icowden

Shaman
Why would I want to do that?
I fill up once in 2 or 3 weeks at my convenience when I’m passing a garage.

You never make a special trip to get petrol?

Anyway - the point is that refuelling in an EV is a different process and philosophy. Many people consider it a deal breaker or inconvenient. I think of it as a different kind of convenience. A little chance to relax on a longer journey. I prefer it.
 

Pross

Über Member
You never make a special trip to get petrol?

Anyway - the point is that refuelling in an EV is a different process and philosophy. Many people consider it a deal breaker or inconvenient. I think of it as a different kind of convenience. A little chance to relax on a longer journey. I prefer it.

I really don't get your argument. You seem to be saying that because you have an EV you can pull off the motorway to charge up and enjoy having some food and drink somewhere nicer but that is still an option for anyone driving at petrol or diesel car (something I do occasionally, I haven't filled up at a motorway services for years). OK, the petrol station may not be at the same place you are eating but you'll generally pass a pub or something when going to a petrol station or vice versa. It's not something unique to driving an EV.
 
It's one of those things where people look at just the flight time and forget about the travel time to the airport, getting there an hour or two early to get through security etc.. We did a choir tour to Germany a few months back and the instinct was that the coach would take too long so we flew but the reality was that by time we travelled to Heathrow, got there in plenty of time for check-in etc. which left us hanging around for ages, getting through passport control / baggage reclaim at the other end, getting to the coach and travelling to our destination there actully wasn't much in it. Not sure how the costs compared, the main downside is that on the coach you're stuck in your seat for longer whereas at least the airport offered a bit of a break and chance to strech our legs.
London to Edinburgh by train is fairly easy, but the conditions on the train and not in first class can be utterly awful.

Also, I have experienced quite regular long delays on that line on the last part of it. For some reason trains keep hitting cows when I go.

The flights are also about as reliable as a Jaguar, but unless you are delayed actually on the tarmac, being delayed at an airport is usually better, because at least you can stand up, walk about, use a toilet that functions and quite often find a place to lie down.

From anywhere not in London and not somewhere along the route, the additional time to battle into London tips the balance back to flying. From here I could drive up in about the same time as the train.
 

PurplePenguin

Well-Known Member
 

icowden

Shaman
No, that would be silly. I will pass a garage at some point on the road to running out of fuel so never had the need.
Side issue. I never understood people driving 20 miles round trip to save a few pence on a litre of petrol either.

Ah. You don't have kids then...
 
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