Climate Crisis: Are we doing enough?

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AndyRM

Elder Goth
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce84zd68242o

Mum and her six year old about to take their 40th flight. The rise of extreme day trippers.

That's nuts, mostly because generally you leave as early and return as late as possible to maximise time. Environmental concerns aside, doing that to such a young child seems cruel.
 

Psamathe

Legendary Member
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce84zd68242o

Mum and her six year old about to take their 40th flight. The rise of extreme day trippers.
I'm often shocked by the number of younger generations that completely ignore climate damage and waste energy and resources. One of my neighbours outside lights (still tungsten) on often all night flood lighting their back garden whilst they sit indoors watching TV. There seems no awareness of the damage let alone the cost on their bills.

Local primary school in tiny rural village on edge of countryside sets no example to parents/children as their entire building floodlights on 15:00 until who knows how late at night, weekends, school holidays, summer and winter. Clearly their budgets have money to burn.

To me it beggars belief.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
My daughter has done 10 in the last month (11 if you count the initial transfer flight). Gen Z killing the planet!

Is she the Narrator from Fight Club?
 

Pross

Über Member
Is she the Narrator from Fight Club?

I’ve never watched it so don’t get the reference sorry!

She’s on a dance contract in India and one of her jobs is cheerleading for an IPL team so has to travel with them but then go back to her base city for other jobs in between (although last week they went back between two home matches even though there were no jobs which seems a bit stupid).
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
I’ve never watched it so don’t get the reference sorry!

She’s on a dance contract in India and one of her jobs is cheerleading for an IPL team so has to travel with them but then go back to her base city for other jobs in between (although last week they went back between two home matches even though there were no jobs which seems a bit stupid).

Ah, yes, I remember that from the cricket thread on the mothership.

The Narrator makes a lot of flights, which is kind a running theme through the film.
 
Carbon offsetting is a joke, a means to justify climate polluting activities without resolving anything and still doing avoidable damage.
It's even worse as if you do the maths, the about of carbon offset bought can never actually been used to do thing do offset carbon like planting trees. There is an forest in Canada that has over 200% of it's potential maximum carbon offset "rights" sold.
A other thing is bio-mass the dutch national trust has became largely self-funded by supplying trees for bio-mass on paper a good thing but what they in fact do is plant and then cut trees about every 5 years, which leads to disruption to all kind of wildlife that relies on trees being older. and or tree trunks etc.
 

PurplePenguin

Senior Member
How would you feel about 11 return flights per year?
"Rhona and Riley have been on three trips so far in 2026, and are planning to do one per month for the rest of the year."

I don't think it is newsworthy. It wouldn't surprise me if there are kids who do a return flight every weekend.
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
They are filling seats that would likely otherwise be empty and which are being sold off cheap. The plane would be flying anyway. If a half empty plane was flying we wouldn't even have heard about it.

Having said that, it does seem a bit pointless. If these are so often available (see link below) the airline should reduce the flights to those destinations to encourage more full, not half empty, flights. I can't see that kids would get that much from a day trip to most places. I wouldn't have put my kids through the time and hassle just to spend a few hours in a city, however lovely a place.

Oslo, Venice, Tirana, Copenhagen, Milan, Luxembourg, Bucharest, Barcelona, Palermo, Turin, Naples, Rome ... £30 return. Dublin in a day has been a thing for a while.

https://www.hotukdeals.com/search?q=Day+trip
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
It's fewer than 7 flights a year which doesn't seem that remarkable to me.

Compared to an average of one return flight per year for those in the UK it is a lot. Even more if they are planning to do 12 in total this year. May not be remarkable to you but statistically it is exceptional.
 
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