Discrimination?

[First Aspect]

The suppression of Gaelic goes back further than 300 years.

Can you tell me what this “Scottish outlook” is, because from your responses I’m smelling a heap of gaslighting bullshit.

Er okay.

Don't know because I was only there most of my adult life, which was probably more than your total adult life so far. But hey I am English, so in the world of Scottish inclusivity, my observations don't count.

You don't have any recent examples, I assume?

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

As I say, in nearly two decades up there I have never come across this particular narrative. It is typical of the Scottish outlook to see hostility when looking at the cause of an event. Must there be always be some "other" at fault for a perceived ill suffered by Scotland? Rather, in this case for example, looking at populations in the Highlands and islands versus populations in the south of the country as the cause of an inevitable domination if the language spoken in the south.

A lack of overt support to prop up a language is not the same as a hostility towards it. I remain convinced that any such hostility exists, at least in the present day.

You have clearly never seen threads where nobody respects them and say you are nothing but Teuchter sheep shaggers, and that the signs for you are so retarded that they should be banned, because Rangers and 55 percent or something

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Yes, it's that stupid

 

[Xipe Totec]

The suppression of Gaelic goes back further than 300 years.

Can you tell me what this “Scottish outlook” is, because from your responses I’m smelling a heap of gaslighting bullshit.

I think what they're saying is that the Scots are a bunch of whingeing grievance-mongers who refuse to take responsibility for wilfully squandering every opportunity handed them.

And probably a bunch of ungrateful subsidy junkies too, if I am correctly apprehending the gist.

 

[First Aspect]

Not quite. The Barnett formula is justifiable based on the costs that the geography imposes. The state is also larger than the rUK because that same geography means Scotland takes more of it's fair share of infrastructure and armed forces.

However most Scots don't understand that they are over represented in Westminster, not under represented, so they are neither democratically nor financially hard done by - other than by the SNP, which is financially reckless and illiterate. They can't even run their own party.

The national chip on the shoulder got extremely tiresome over the years. The SNP also fostered a sense of Scottish exceptionalism.

Anyhow, moving on from the fall out of the Jacobite rebellion and the Act of Union on Gaelic speaking crofters, I am still yet to understand the hostility towards Gaelic now or in recent history.

Perhaps asserting it in an increasingly shouty manner will prove persuasive.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Don't know

How can you not know? You wrote it!

Don’t back away from your statement now, FA.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

I was only there most of my adult life, which was probably more than your total adult life so far.

I doubt it. I’ve been retired three years and lived here since birth.

If most of your adult life amounts to ‘almost two decades‘, then I’ve got shoes that are older than you.

in nearly two decades up there I have never come across this

You might as well have written that in nearly two decades in Scotland you’d never seen a red squirrel. Doesn’t mean we don’t have them.

 

[First Aspect]

How can you not know? You wrote it!

Don’t back away from your statement now, FA.

Whoosh

 

[First Aspect]

I doubt it. I’ve been retired three years and lived here since birth.

If most of your adult life amounts to ‘almost two decades‘, then I’ve got shoes that are older than you.



You might as well have written that in nearly two decades in Scotland you’d never seen a red squirrel. Doesn’t mean we don’t have them.

I have seen a red squirrel.

So you are old. Perhaps one of those people still bemoaning Thatcher and the closure of the mines.

Back to the point. I can accept if I was blissfully unaware of the gaelicism in the brief time I was up there, but you've yet to do anything other than assert that it exists and be annoyed because an English bloke questioned you.

 

[Xipe Totec]

I think what they're saying is that the Scots are a bunch of whingeing grievance-mongers who refuse to take responsibility for wilfully squandering every opportunity handed them.

And probably a bunch of ungrateful subsidy junkies too, if I am correctly apprehending the gist.

Nailed it.

But then, you can spot 'em 1.6 km off, can't you?

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Whoosh

As I thought, a coward.

I have seen a red squirrel.

Fück me 🤦‍♂️

So you are old. Perhaps one of those people still bemoaning Thatcher and the closure of the mines.

Those were tough times that shouldn’t be forgotten, and won’t be by the families and communities that were affected. Easy to dismiss from afar though.

Back to the point. I can accept if I was blissfully unaware of the gaelicism in the brief time I was up there, but you've yet to do anything other than assert that it exists and be annoyed because an English bloke questioned you.

You’re the only one who expressed criticism based on nationality, hypocrite. I didn’t know you were English until you explicitly said so in your 6th post, where you used it to express your victimhood.

The point you’re diligently ducking is that you made a dig at all Scots and bottled it when this Scot challenged you on it.

 

[First Aspect]

As I thought, a coward.


Fück me 🤦‍♂️



Those were tough times that shouldn’t be forgotten, and won’t be by the families and communities that were affected. Easy to dismiss from afar though.



You’re the only one who expressed criticism based on nationality, hypocrite. I didn’t know you were English until you explicitly said so in your 6th post, where you used it to express your victimhood.

The point you’re diligently ducking is that you made a dig at all Scots and bottled it when this Scot challenged you on it.

If we were in person, you'd be squaring up to me now. Kind of why I left tbh.

I've lost track of what it is that I have and haven't said or not said. But there are lots of my opinions and observations on Scotland in the public domain. I think I'm quite balanced.

With diminishing expectation I'm hoping to learn more about the anti Gaelic sentiment that I was oblivious to the whole time.

If there's one thing the Scots aren't short of in general is pride of nation (to excess) and pride in their particular part of it - which is lacking in England. So, in those places with more Gaelic heritage, there seemed to be pride in it. And insofar as it is intrinsically Scottish, this seemed also to be the case more widely, albeit to a lesser extent.

What didn't I see?

 

[briantrumpet]

If we were in person, you'd be squaring up to me now. Kind of why I left tbh.

I've lost track of what it is that I have and haven't said or not said. But there are lots of my opinions and observations on Scotland in the public domain. I think I'm quite balanced.

With diminishing expectation I'm hoping to learn more about the anti Gaelic sentiment that I was oblivious to the whole time.

If there's one thing the Scots aren't short of in general is pride of nation (to excess) and pride in their particular part of it - which is lacking in England. So, in those places with more Gaelic heritage, there seemed to be pride in it. And insofar as it is intrinsically Scottish, this seemed also to be the case more widely, albeit to a lesser extent.

What didn't I see?

I take out you haven't signed up to Cornish nationalism then?

 

[First Aspect]

I take out you haven't signed up to Cornish nationalism then?

I haven't got round to it yet.

 

[First Aspect]

Apparently Cornish, the language, is basically Welsh anyway.