First Aspect
Squire
Could it be that you haven't quite grasped the problematic nuances at play here?
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Ian H
Pharaoh
There's little indication, in that article, as to how many people are calling for Lucas to go. It appears that two are quoted.
bobzmyunkle
Guru
Here we go again. Unspecified 'problematic nuances'.
Here you go
https://greens4palestine.uk/
You can read the actual motion.
And you can read the document which explains everything to the apologists.
First Aspect
Squire
Nope, I can see that you haven't.
Let me explain. 99.999% of people won't read it, but will instead apply whatever interpretation their own personal understanding of "Zionism" is, or whatever their own prejudices are, to the three word summary.
It's a bit like how Ofsted reduce an inspection to a single word picked out of a tombola, only worse and done to themselves.
Let me explain. 99.999% of people won't read it, but will instead apply whatever interpretation their own personal understanding of "Zionism" is, or whatever their own prejudices are, to the three word summary.
It's a bit like how Ofsted reduce an inspection to a single word picked out of a tombola, only worse and done to themselves.
bobzmyunkle
Guru
So that's what you mean by nuance.
Keep quiet because there may be a negative side to speaking the truth.
Which is what Caroline Lucas is arguing for - quietism.
It would be interesting to know how you think change might occur.
First Aspect
Squire
Change in what? Antisemism or some other form or racism? Do I have to choose? Because it seems that is indeed necessary.
Lucas is arguing for sensiblism, not simplism. And fairly eloquently.
Also, quite rightly, she seems to understand that dying on the wrong hill rather hampers their attempts to push a green agenda forward.
Pblakeney
Shaman
You think Lucas is arguing for quietism. Fair enough if that is how you see it.
Your solution to quietism is to keep them quiet?
bobzmyunkle
Guru
Don't be silly.
bobzmyunkle
Guru
Worked well under her leadership.
Pblakeney
Shaman
Why not? I’m happy.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
It seems we have to trust the views of the proposers of the ZiR motion over those of Lucas, which seems kinda weird, given her history with the party.
First Aspect
Squire
Different time, I think its fair to say. We live.in an age of populism. Not sure that's worth celebrating.
First Aspect
Squire
First Aspect
Squire
Any chance of citing a serious news organisation?
