Does anybody here take the Greens seriously?

[CXRAndy]

And I know everyone here is a free-thinking individualist, with no need for artificial restrictive barriers,

Oh, and Don't Feed The Troll. You know it makes sense!

 

[AuroraSaab]

... can we now keep the trans stuff in the trans thread?

It's women's stuff btw. It's relevant here in part because only the Greens, and to some extent the Lib Dems, are expelling members for refusing to fall in line with the idea that women can have penises. It's very much part of why people aren't taking the Greens seriously, which is the title of the thread.

Personally I think the Greens will see an increase in membership for a while longer with renewed interest from having a new leader, especially amongst younger people. As this also brings more publicity about their policies to the wider public the rest of us can see how bonkers they are. Win-Win really.

 

[CXRAndy]

Less than 2 years before they vote for a new leader

 

[matticus]

only the Greens, and to some extent the Lib Dems, are expelling members for refusing to fall in line with the idea

Sure, that's a relevant fact for debate! (Oddly, it's the first mention on this thread. I think ...) Debating whether women have penises? Less so ...

 

[First Aspect]

I'm not sure it's all that high on the list of things people don't take the Greens seriously for, tbh.

 

[AuroraSaab]

I hope they keep him. It's a shame for those long standing members who have fought to get the party back to being sensible, tolerant, and focused on environmental issues. In terms of publicising the Green's descent into nutty ideologies he's proving to be the man for the job though.

 

[monkers]

You mean men who believe they're females. Im sure you can find the stats

Do you mean to sound this ignorant or does it just come naturally? Trans women do not believe they are reproductive females, no more than they believe they are cisgender. This is why the use the word ''trans woman''. You sound so very ignorant when you declare this with such absolutism.

 

[monkers]

You mean men who believe they're females. Im sure you can find the stats

I'm aware of the stats. The stats say that you are making fake claims. Debating etiquette - the person making the claim is the one responsible for substantiating it. So go ahead, substantiate your claim that all trans women are predators.

 

[matticus]

I'm not sure it's all that high on the list of things people don't take the Greens seriously for, tbh.

The most common reasons I'm reading:
- he changed his name (or "what Dave doesn't realise is ... " ) &
- he needs some toothpaste.

With a large side-order of "boobs! He did that thing about boobs in the Sun! BOOBS, BOOBS getting BIGGER, I wanna talk about BOOBS! "

 

[monkers]

Yet statistical figures point to trans(TiMs) have an equal or higher offending for sexual offences than the general male population.

So puffing out her husbands chest is warranted

You are making a false claim. I'm challenging it. Prove it.

 

[C R]

I have - but not for many, many years. Probably deserves a rewatch - Spacey is an incredible actor, despite being a highly problematic human being, to put it kindly.



You've never met a trans person but the fact they exist terrifies you in ways you can neither understand nor express.

I suspect that if you were able or willing to co-operate with somebody qualified, to examine & analyse all these dreadful emotions which you externalise as anger & hate whenever you think about people who don't conform to traditional, socially-mandated gender roles, I'm confident it would turn out to be your problem, and not theirs.

The first step to change is acceptance.

Spoiler

The neighbour is a proper manly man, ex marine IIRC. While spying on Spacey's character the neighbour forms the wrong impression that Spacey's character is gay, and decides to come out to him. Spacey's character finds the coming out hilarious, so the neighbour shoots him

 

[First Aspect]

I think the thread has been lost to the abyss.

 

[Ianonabike]

I think the thread has been lost to the abyss.

Good film.


View: https://youtu.be/wO7Vyhy0iXs

 

[CXRAndy]

Stats indicate trans have an sexual offending 300-400 per 100k

Where as males have sexual offending 60 per 100k

 

[Ianonabike]

There's a Trump thread, but are posts about him confined to that thread? No. Nor is any other subject that I'm aware of treated that way. What makes posts about "trans" (as AuroraSaab said, often "women's stuff") so special?

As for Zack pretending not to know who has a penis, that could in part be because it's less risky to anger "TERFs" than volatile trans activists. Smart in its way, but he's no penius.


View: https://youtu.be/c38Aom3bOE0

Don't Feed The Troll. You know it makes sense!

Personally I think Zack is trolling anybody with two brain cells to rub together.