Does anybody here take the Greens seriously?
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matticus
Legendary Member
Genuninely interested in this:
Can you clue me in on the recent history?
And are you saying that Zack is undermining their environmental focus?
CXRAndy
Shaman
Maybe because all the headlines are about him, his position on Trans and his erm colourful hypnosis treatment for flat chested women
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Ianonabike
Regular
View: https://youtu.be/ArLZDrQMW-A
Brain cell on the left - "A woman can have a penis."
Brain cell on the right - "Give your head a wobble."
matticus
Legendary Member
OK, thanks - clear now: you're only interested in trans issues. (which is fine - free speech and all that!)
matticus
Legendary Member
Useful to get the opinoin of a long-time Green supporter, thanks.👍 I'm really sorry if your strongly-held beliefs are being sullied by all the boob talk.
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Ianonabike
Regular
I would genuinely like to vote Green, but yes it's true that when somebody says something so breathtakingly stupid, I have a lot of trouble taking anything else they say seriously.
matticus
Legendary Member
Would you vote for the last party standing that has trans policies you agree with?
And how many times have you voted Green before?
AuroraSaab
Pharaoh
They've expelled women and men who won't toe the line on gender issues. They made a man head of the Green Party Women's Section.
https://unherd.com/2025/10/the-green-partys-war-on-women/
What's the USP of the Greens? Why vote for them over say the Lib Dems? It's the environmental focus surely. They've abandoned that central focus, alienating people who worked and voted for them for years; all in favour of trying to capture the youth vote with pie in the sky policies and bandwagon social activism, especially on trans issues.
They are a classic example of how institutions can be captured by a small number of vociferous activists.
AuroraSaab
Pharaoh
Women's policies. You frame everything in terms of it being being about trans rights when it's about women's rights.
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Ianonabike
Regular
I have in fact voted Green. Also Tory. Oh, and Labour. I have absolutely no loyalty to any particular party. You?
I don't really think in terms of "trans" policies. Among other things (Zack's stand on abolishing private letting, for example - and no, I'm not a landlord), I look at if they are, in my opinion, likely to respect the rights of women. Not even knowing what a woman is undermines those rights. Currently the Tories are mostly saying the right things. It hasn't always been so.
First Aspect
Veteran
Are you a well known author?
First Aspect
Veteran
In seriousness, it seems to me - having seen this play out in Scotland - that in an effort to virtue signal their inclusivity, political parties (all of them, in Scotland, in fact) went further than society as a whole wanted, and have ended up with more regressive law than they had to begin with.
In your view, when did the shift to trans rights outweigh women's rights?
Genuine question.
monkers
Shaman
I advise getting the information first hand direct from the Green Party.
https://greenparty.org.uk/about/our-manifesto/defending-human-rights-democracy-and-justice
matticus
Legendary Member
Sorry Aurora but you and Ian are now playing tag-team posting - it's like the good old days here on NACA! - and I won't respond any more to posts taken out of context.
