Does anybody here take the Greens seriously?

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Ianonabike

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I suppose that's what you'd call a leading question...
 

CXRAndy

Epic Member
After seeing his performance on QT and Morgan, he will be forever remembered as a nutjob.

Totally unelectable. There will always be a few crazies, seems some on here are just as deranged to vote for them
 

Dorset Boy

Well-Known Member
Whilst they may have some decent aims, they are economically illiterate and therefore cannot possibly be taken seriously by anyone with half an ounce of political or economic sense.
 

Psamathe

Guru
Whilst they may have some decent aims, they are economically illiterate and therefore cannot possibly be taken seriously by anyone with half an ounce of political or economic sense.
The problem looking at Green "policy" is that more news reports don't report "Green Policy" ie they don't report what the party would do were they to win power/influence.

What makes it harder for the Green Party is that it's very democratic and any member can propose "policy" and have it put to the membership whi will vote - and that is what press reports and daft ideas do get through.

But PPS is drawn from policies passing membership votes amongst other things (eg Core Values and Philosophical Basis. Also the Green Party does distinguish between long term strategic approach and short term positions and responses to particular current circumstances.

Every party has its extreme daftness which can get through the membership eg Ms Truss eg suppressing much needed growth through increasing tax on employers. To assess Green's economic literacy would mean looking through their election manifestos.

I've no idea what their policy is about membership these days. I joined years ago (subsequently left as I was too busy doing other stuff) but in those days joining required a senior party official coming round and a 1 hr interview on views, political aims, etc. (and mine was lomger as I didn't agree with all their policies and said so ...). But looks like it's a lot easier to join these days which makes it even easier for daft policies that sound good but are unworkable to be put to membership.

That's not to say I regard their economic vision and good or bad, just in the current economic circumstances I've not seen it. Being more democratic they elect Party leader very frequently (every 2 years) but for various reasons Polanski only has a 1 year term (ie new elections in less than a year) so very easy for them to take a risk, see what happens and return to sanity long before the next General Election should it not work well.
 

Psamathe

Guru
I guess they're quite handy for splitting the leftie nut job vote.
(Whilst I wouldn't call them "nut jobs") I currently think splitting the left vote could be a benefit. I'm coming to the view that a hung Parliament might be the best (or least bad) way forward. Of course a lot depends on the detail of what agreements and coalitions are then formed but my hope would be it would be a moderating even "minimal" legislature, maybe focusing more on what needs to be done than pursuing ideological aims (like Starmer's authoritarianism).

I can see means where the left vote is split enough (Greens and Fruit & Nut as long as they don't just steal votes from each other). The bigger issue were there to be a General Election tomorrow is splitting the right vote as without a viable Conservative Party, Reform really gets free rein.
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
The Greens seem to be attracting younger/student members in the same way that Corbyn did. For Corbyn this seemed mainly to result in more votes in constituencies where Labour were already popular. Unless the Greens can attract older voters in parts of the country where they don't have a foothold it might increase their votes (in university towns for example) but won't translate to MPs or seats on councils.
 

Psamathe

Guru
Unless the Greens can attract older voters in parts of the country where they don't have a foothold it might increase their votes (in university towns for example) but won't translate to MPs or seats on councils.
I've lived in present house for 20+ years and it's always been a 110% safe Conservative. Massive Conservative majority forever until last General Election and we now have a Green MP.

(Sadly I didn't even vote as I was overseas through the election process)
 
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C R

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I've lived in present house for 20+ years and it's always been a 110% safe Conservative. Massive Conservative majority forever until last General Election and we now have a Green MP.

(Sadly I didn't even vote as I was overseas through the election process)

There was a by election for a district council nearby in a solid Conservative area. Reform won but Greens were second, beating the Conservatives. I get the impression around here that decent people who were Conservative voters are shifting to the Greens. The North Herefordshire result at the General election seems to back that up.
 

monkers

Shaman
After seeing his performance on QT and Morgan, he will be forever remembered as a nutjob.

Totally unelectable. There will always be a few crazies, seems some on here are just as deranged to vote for them

Reform down three points, Green up four point according to the poll that you've previously been quoting. Can't think why you didn't choose to post this. :rolleyes:

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