Donald I, emperor of the world.

[midlandsgrimpeur]

I'm not sure if it's a bad news as I'd like, as the far right will happily coalesce around whatever individual makes the right noises. Marine le Pen managed to slightly detoxify the le Pen brand, but I'm not sure that it's so central to the far right as Trump is to MAGA.

Always the danger of something like this is that it gives an extremist party the excuse to say that they are political targets, even when it's a clear-cut breach. Compare with Sarkozy, who is just now a rather pathetic figure, no Messiah.

I don't know, I think this has the potential to be the start of a far bigger push back, certainly in Europe. The biggest myth we have in a liberal democracy is that for it to be truly democratic, we need to give equal weight to all sides of the political spectrum. In reality the counter is true, in order to preserve a liberal democracy, you have to starve the extremes until they wither and die. The best way to take on populists is to deny them any legitimate means of political power or voice. Banning Le Pen and her ilk from public office seems like potentially a rather large step to slowly killing off their influence.

 

[Ian H]

No sh*t.
I think the journo had to fill column inches. I really don't honestly know what she was trying to say.

A long article would be Perry Anderson's detailed five page analysis of the current situation.

My point about the CNN piece is that it's a reasoned, non-hysterical analysis from an opposition pint of view. It's moving on from the fear and outrage. Interestingly they seem to be less concerned about the consequences of Trump's economic policies than the Economist.

 

[Pinno718]

A long article would be Perry Anderson's detailed five page analysis of the current situation.

My point about the CNN piece is that it's a reasoned, non-hysterical analysis from an opposition pint of view. It's moving on from the fear and outrage. Interestingly they seem to be less concerned about the consequences of Trump's economic policies than the Economist.

No doubt - the CNN is not a MAGA bugle but please, summarise it for me. What was the conclusion?

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

As far as the standing for a 3rd term is concerned

They "proper" way would be a change to the Constitution allowing ex president to stand for a 3rd term

which would clear the way for Trump to stand again

BUT - it would also clear the way for Obama to stand again

now wouldn't that be an interesting election

 

[Pinno718]

As far as the standing for a 3rd term is concerned

They "proper" way would be a change to the Constitution allowing ex president to stand for a 3rd term

which would clear the way for Trump to stand again

BUT - it would also clear the way for Obama to stand again

now wouldn't that be an interesting election

Interesting thought,. Trump would have to avoid TV debates as Obama would wipe the floor with him.

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Interesting thought,. Trump would have to avoid TV debates as Obama would wipe the floor with him.

Just turn him upside down. He’s got the mop for wiping floors.

 

[Pinno718]

Just turn him upside down. He’s got the toiler brush.

 

[C R]

Interesting thought,. Trump would have to avoid TV debates as Obama would wipe the floor with him.

Like that would do any good. Both Clinton and Harris wiped him out in the debates. He still won the election. In any case, he already told his followers that they wouldn't need to vote again if he won. It is clear by now that he meant every single outlandish thing he said in the election.

As I said in the opening post of the thread, are you scared yet? If you aren't you haven't been paying attention.

 

[C R]

 

[Ian H]

I'm not sure I see Obama wanting to put himself through that again.

 

[Xipe Totec]

Trump won't need a third term. When minor acts of vandalism (scratching a car's paintwork) are being cast as an 'act of domestic terrorism' it's not exactly a pole-vault of logic to predict the trajectory. It'll take a couple of rowdy protests for Trump to declare a State of National Emergency & suspend all future elections indefinitely, likely alongside introducing a raft of oppressive new legislation.

I doubt he'll want to wait until after the midterms.

 

[HMS_Dave]

Third term or not, Trump bothers me half as much as who might succeed him.

 

[Dorset Boy]

Just turn him upside down. He’s got the mop for wiping floors.

If it is stuck on with Tesla glue, it'll fall off if you turn the TT upsidedown.

 

[Pblakeney]

If it is stuck on with Tesla glue, it'll fall off if you turn the TT upsidedown.

That would be funny. Win, win.

 

[Pinno718]

Dementia just might the deciding factor.