Donald I, emperor of the world.
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briantrumpet
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Also trombone... had to amuse myself somehow.
Pblakeney
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I was thinking that they could have said that "now it is unsealed we are looking to release it".
That alone could have panicked Trump.
Depends what you call valid. eg go to a Reform party meeting and take a poll about how Farage is rated and he'll get a high score compared to the same rating question across the UK population (as pollsters would use).
Both are valid for what they are as the group polled is specified.
Trump stated the group for his rating as Republicans & MAGA whereas pollsters take great efforts to get a population representative result - hence the difference.
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Pinno718
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Maybe.
Pblakeney
Senior Member
Okay, “should”.
Really, it’s fairly obvious why this information is remaining hidden.
Pinno718
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If you are suggesting that the ring of the nefarious crosses both floors, then each side has the opportunity to relinquish the rotten wood.
In my (stereotypical) mind, the majority* will surely be Red swinging multi-millionaires and the impact of such a move would affect Republicans more than Democrats. Unless you are totally cynical, which I am not.
Who cares about say Clinton for example, he's a tainted individual anyway.
*Not including non-Americans implicated.
Pblakeney
Senior Member
Calling me cynical is hardly a new thing. 😉
Clinton is just the easy target, as is Trump and Andrew. The thing about this list is, who else is on it? And what were they doing?
Pinno718
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I wasn't calling you cynical. I said that because many people just assume all politicians are corrupt.
Do you need to ask the question?
I mean, if they are connected with Epstein, then they were involved.
What has transpired is that no one really knows how Epstein made his fortune. There are over 4700 wire transfers of money all with Epstein at the epicentre. Epstein seems to have laundered money and acted as a money mule. We do not know how many of those transactions were for money laundering and how many transactions were for 'services provided'. My gut feeling, is that Epstein held lots of information about his clients as 'insurance'.
Epstein showed Michael Woolf a whole picture album of Polaroid pictures sometime in the early 2000's. The pictures were of his 'clients' in semi-compromised situations. Maybe it served as a brochure.
We all know paedo's take vicarious pleasure in filming sexual acts. We know that Epstein had CC TV in all of his properties.
Therefore, one can only assume that any videos acted as proper insurance and we don't know if the clients knew that they were on CC TV. Perhaps they were reminded if they showed any signs of 'mis-behaving' or defaulting. Who knows?
I think Epstein's carved out a role for himself . He could provide a duality of services - handling money and providing gratification services. [I'll eat my hat if Trumps bit coins are a not a direct result of seeing how digital currencies hide many sins having learnt from Epstein. DT hasn't got an original idea in his head]
I think Ghislaine (very much in love with Epstein, that there is no doubt) would do anything for him but simultaneously was the key: she had the charm to sucker in the girls. One woman (former model) very recently had said that she was bought into the whole charade by GM in a matter of hours. She said "She [GM] made you feel special, made you feel like you were part of something big. Remember, a lot of these girls were aspiring models (Casablancas, Elite Model Management?).
So anyone involved with Epstein at a high level, was either money laundering or being 'serviced' or both as far as I am concerned.
The question for me is: Who were his clients? The money; I don't give a damn. It's simply a huge collection of very useful leads. Global money laundering by the super rich involving legal means including tax avoidance is rife and requires international agreements to go some way to reaching fairness. The sexual exploitation and those involved in it however, is of paramount importance because it's the rich getting away with heinous crimes. People are jailed int he UK for having inappropriate photographs on their computers (to provide proportion).
Pinno718
Well-Known Member
Funny, I stumbled on this from the FT:
JPMorgan said on Monday it had reached an agreement in principle to settle a putative class action lawsuit brought by an unnamed Epstein accuser. A spokeswoman for JPMorgan declined to comment on the size of the settlement.
JPMorgan is still facing similar allegations in a separate legal challenge from the US Virgin Islands.
JPMorgan Chase agrees to settle Epstein lawsuit
JPMorgan Chase has agreed to settle one of two lawsuits over its 15-year relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, which accused the bank of profiting from human trafficking by ignoring multiple internal warnings about their former client’s sex crimes.JPMorgan said on Monday it had reached an agreement in principle to settle a putative class action lawsuit brought by an unnamed Epstein accuser. A spokeswoman for JPMorgan declined to comment on the size of the settlement.
JPMorgan is still facing similar allegations in a separate legal challenge from the US Virgin Islands.
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C R
Guru
As I said, a very low bar to hit. At the time Dubya was considered the dumbest president yet, some achievemen, considering the Reagan experience. Of course, Trump beats them both easily.
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C R
Guru
Didn't a once Barclays top boss end up disgraced because of his proximity to Epstein?
Pblakeney
Senior Member
Many people are mostly correct.
