glasgowcyclist
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Have they got a social club, like the Wheeltappers & Shunters?
Donald I, emperor of the world.
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Have they got a social club, like the Wheeltappers & Shunters?
Ian H
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They did have, but it went up in flames.
Ianonabike
New Member
For a man frequently on the record for wanting more people, not fewer, this is quite a leap. Meanwhile, to belabour the obvious, someone certainly hated him for existing.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
I doubt that is true or as simple as you make it. Of course you have to exist to be hated but Kirk was more likely hated for the views he famously promoted. If he was hated for existing it would have been for something natal like his colour or race, and it is unlikely Robinson would have hated him if he had been just an anonymous plumber living in the same street.
Ianonabike
New Member
Do you take issue with the quote I was replying to - that Kirk hated people for simply existing?
Rusty Nails
Country Member
I doubt that Kirk hated people for simply existing, but did think less of people who did not live in his narrowly defined version of religion and morals.
Do you think that Robinson hated him just for existing, and not for the promotion (and monetisation?) of his version of religion and morality?
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Ianonabike
New Member
Do you think so? I don't. If he thought so little of them he wouldn't have spent so much of his time debating them, particularly in the respectful manner I've seen time and again.
I was mirroring the quote, and curious why you didn't complain about that but went straight for mine.
Pinno718
Über Member
The text messages between Robinson and his trans lover (yes, you heard me) have emerged.
Robinson left a note saying he has the opportunity to kill Kirk. He was 'sick of his hatred.
My initial thoughts is that he was in a relationship with a trans and this was probably unacceptable to his Mormon family. His roommate and partner had no idea that he had planned to kill Kirk.
The problem I see immediately is that the loony right will try to claim that he was radicalised by a trans which simply adds fuel to their fire.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP1YaqiB7-c
Robinson left a note saying he has the opportunity to kill Kirk. He was 'sick of his hatred.
My initial thoughts is that he was in a relationship with a trans and this was probably unacceptable to his Mormon family. His roommate and partner had no idea that he had planned to kill Kirk.
The problem I see immediately is that the loony right will try to claim that he was radicalised by a trans which simply adds fuel to their fire.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP1YaqiB7-c
Rusty Nails
Country Member
If he hadn't had the gimmick of debating college students he wouldn't have had the publicity or made the money he had. I do not define a calm, calculated response as necessarily respectful. He knew how to look good in debates where he had the advantage in experience. He lost that respectful manner a few times in the Cambridge debates when he was put under pressure to answer in other than rehearsed clichés.
I went straight for yours because I thought you were wrong. I have been on this forum quite a bit in the past couple of days but strangely enough I do not respond to every post or indeed everyone that I disagree with.
What is your response to my earlier question to you?
